r/AbruptChaos Oct 06 '22 Wholesome 1 Helpful 2

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u/Toxic-Park Oct 06 '22

Is this the scene we always hear about in 80s/90s action movies trope:

“Why’d they put you behind a desk man?”

“I…I shot a kid…”

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u/Nkechinyerembi Oct 06 '22

yeah, but only if the cop lasts long enough to get passed their probationary period. this guy was still a rookie, so yeah.

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u/merc08 Oct 06 '22

Why was a rookie patrolling solo at night?

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u/aboatz2 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

Unlike what's shown in "The Rookie," most departments have a shorter Training Officer period (15-18wks or so is common, after having completed initial training). They're then on probationary status for a year, when they're typically solo.

SAPD has a 15wk TO period, followed by a one year probationary period... this officer was 7 months into that one year, which is why he wasn't covered by the Union nor allowed to appeal.

Edit: Removed link to article because it no longer contained the info on training periods & was being constantly updated, thus was no longer a stable reference article.

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u/oconnellt7 Oct 06 '22

I shot jeter

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u/JulianRickyandBubs Oct 06 '22

Can you imagine where you would be in your career if you didn’t shoot jeter

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u/Qweiopakslzm Oct 06 '22

When was your last desk pop?

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u/davidfranciscop Oct 06 '22

September of ‘08

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u/FlavourDaddy Oct 06 '22

They were so convincing in their argument!

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u/drunxor Oct 06 '22

Im a peacock you gotta let me fly!

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u/THElaytox Oct 06 '22

He's a biracial angel! Should've shot A-Rod...

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u/colin8651 Oct 06 '22 Gold

“Following an internal review, Brennard’s employment with San Antonio Police Department was terminated…..

The criminal investigation is ongoing”

His girlfriend was in the car at the time also, luckily she was not injured. The driver got a few holes shot in him but it sounds like he will live.

The officer was a probationary officer and new to the job.

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u/roofuskit Oct 06 '22 Gold All-Seeing Upvote

Just FYI, a few holes shot in you often means a lifetime of medical issues.

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u/Lake_of_Crystal Oct 06 '22

Plus the trauma, your body doesn't forget that shit

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u/CatPoopWeiner424 Oct 06 '22

Neither does your mind… poor guy is gonna be ordering food from now on

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u/DuzzyJay Oct 06 '22

As someone who has been shot, this more than anything. ^

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u/Velissari Oct 06 '22

In America, neither does your wallet.

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u/JohnDeesGhost Oct 06 '22

Oof every time I see one of these videos from the US I forget about that problem. I hope they can sue the officer and the police, but collecting on a lawsuit is often harder than getting a decision in your favour. Poor bastard

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u/Jakesmonkeybiz Oct 06 '22

They can definitely sue the city of the officer is at fault ( they definitely are in this case) but it’ll probably be settled out of court

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u/JohnDeesGhost Oct 06 '22

Idk anything about US civil law (or law in general) but I hope that he gets some kind of punitive or pain-and-suffering payout on top of the medical bills. Or maybe compensation for potential loss of future income. It won't change what happened, but this guy deserves a payday for this

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u/Jakesmonkeybiz Oct 06 '22

Shooting at someone is attempted murder but cause they’re a cop and it was “in the line of duty” they’ll likely get a lesser sentence if one at all and the victim will probably get a large payout (I’m not a lawyer tho)

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u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras Oct 06 '22

Well yes, but that was an awfully sharp burger he was holding.

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u/HeartofLion3 Oct 06 '22

Dude didn’t even get the right car, just shot up some random teenager eating fucking McDonald’s. While he was driving away with a passenger in the car!

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u/bot_deamon Oct 06 '22

He recognised (allegedly) the car from an attempted traffic stop the day before. Seems like he went to catch him now rather than respond to the emergency he was there for.

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u/Mission-Two1325 Oct 06 '22

My favorite part, recognized the car but didn't confirm the tag.

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u/JohnDeesGhost Oct 06 '22

A Mazda Miata cut me off in traffic once, so now every time I see it I slash its tires. Bastard keeps getting new tags and paint job

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u/saysthingsbackwards Oct 06 '22

And new tires, when will these criminals learn scoff

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u/TaniaTheTiger Oct 06 '22

Even if it was confirmed to be the same car, who's to say it's not a shared family vehicle? There is no guarantee that person in there is the same person who was driving the car during the previous encounter. This is straight up attempted murder, think about it your chillin in your car eating a burger, minding your own business when out of nowhere a person sneaks up on your, yanks your door open and aggressively demands that you step out of the vehicle, that's exactly what a car jacking looks like. Dude had no time to assess the situation, from the time the cop pulled the door open to when he drew and fired the first shot was less than 5 seconds . . .

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u/gmanisback Oct 06 '22

It's insane this guy thought he could just open fire on the car like that

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u/SaltyLittleLich Oct 06 '22

I wanna know the details for the traffic stop that justified an attempted double homicide.

How much you wanna bet it was something like speeding?

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u/TheGoldenLion123 Oct 06 '22

He chose to be a cop because of so many american movies, he had no idea opening fire in any situation could lead to his termination.

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u/1104L Oct 06 '22

It’s no issue, the police department next town over will probably hire him

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u/Illustrious_Teach_47 Oct 06 '22

You spelled promotion incorrectly 😂

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u/PiffSniffer420 Oct 06 '22

Probably has a gofundme

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u/Noodles01013 Oct 06 '22

Bro got charged for being unlawfully assaulted with a weapon? The cop didn’t even announce himself. Looks like someone will be living pretty on tax payer money!

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u/GoodMerlinpeen Oct 06 '22

They are probably keeping the charges on him to have leverage to get him to settle his lawsuits (or more precisely, lessen the amount they are going to have to pay out for such idiocy).

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u/WtfDidIDo2DeserveDis Oct 06 '22

A good lawyer will probably see right through that. It’s pretty obvious the kid was fleeing for his life, and the cop was not following good procedure.

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u/JEveryman Oct 06 '22

They have announced that the officer was not following proper policy or procedure so establishing that the victim ran only because he feared for his life shouldn't be too hard, that's not to say it won't be.

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u/Grow_away_420 Oct 06 '22

Looking forward to some judge deciding you arent legally entitled to fear the police

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u/JEveryman Oct 06 '22

Specifically while they are actively firing into your vehicle.

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u/Just_Learned_This Oct 06 '22

Well if you just let us shoot you we wouldn't have had to shoot you more.

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u/lidsville76 Oct 06 '22

I'm sure the Union will tell us the truth of what really happened.

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u/hippityhoppityhi Oct 06 '22

Yeah, rest assured a halfway-decent lawyer's got this well in command.

Kid's going to be rich

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u/Wapow217 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Yep, hate the show or not, believe in his innocent or not who cares, but Making a Murder is all about this shit. Edit: no words were added unlike the reply says till just now. Lol. Dude just wanted to talk about some podcast.

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u/heydavescott Oct 06 '22 Helpful

Yup people need to always keep in mind the police are not your friend. Their role in the legal system is to make cases and bust people. And they will try to charge you with everything they can to make you look as bad as possible for the judge. If you ever get arrested after they the read you your rights tell them you do not understand the rights that were said to you and stick with it. Once you say, NO I DO NOT UNDERSATND THOSE RIGHTS, by law they have to stop asking you questions. If they keep badgering you to talk they are in direct violation of you civil rights.

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u/Fearthedoodoo Oct 06 '22

Better yet , remain silent , and consult an attorney.

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u/Steadfast_Apparition Oct 06 '22

"Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law."

This Video is one worth sitting down and spending the 45 minutes to watch.

Remaining silent and not giving anything without legal representation, even when you know you did nothing wrong, is what you NEED to do. If you ask for a lawyer and they refuse or ignore the request, they are pulling some shady shit that NEEDS a lawyer.

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u/thoolish Oct 06 '22

One of the best videos on the subject. Talking to the police will never furnish them with information that they'll use to help you in court!

"I don't answer questions" and "I am choosing to remain silent" and "I do not consent to any searches" should be in everybody's vocabulary when interacting with police.

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u/1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v Oct 06 '22

Sadly, if you watch TV shows like The First 48 or even COPS or LivePD, you will see that 99% of all people who the police stop will just talk their heads off and usually convict themselves.

I am always looking for the ones who say "I am not answering questions" or "I want a lawyer". It's very rare to hear, but once in a while, you will hear it.

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u/kiddokush Oct 06 '22

Because those shows are only airing the altercations where something exciting happens versus those who know their rights and stay quiet. Don’t let that shit fool you

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u/wyopapa25 Oct 06 '22

Police are not your friends, this is truth everyone needs to hear and know.

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u/Peazyzell Oct 06 '22

No way those charges stick. The chief admitted already that there is no way that cop could have known that was the same car or same driver from a different day. Like someone already said, they’re looking for leverage they don’t have. Because at the end of the day cops arent here to protect anyone but themselves

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u/ibanezerscrooge Oct 06 '22

I like how he called for backup, but then just said fuck it, I'm going in! Before any other officers arrived.

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u/GlobalPhreak Oct 06 '22

FTA:

"was charged with evading detention in a vehicle and assault on a peace officer."

Cop failed to identify himself, just yelled "get out of the car". No way for the kid to know this wasn't just an asshole with a gun.

Oh, wait, it WAS an asshole with a gun.

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u/Ionlypost1ce Oct 06 '22

And I must have missed the “assault”. They probably just added that bullshit as a way to leverage him from filing a suit. Make him sign away his right to do so if they drop the charges. Hopefully he gets a lawyer who knows better

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u/Keeiras Oct 06 '22

I don't understand, from what I read the cop only got fired and "The driver, who police say is now in stable condition, was charged with evading detention in a vehicle and assault on a peace officer." Might have trouble for trying to flee the cop??? Or did I not understand perfectly (not native English speaker so I prefer to ask) pretty sure if I hope the door of a random car and start to shoot at the driver I'm not going to be just fired

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u/ObiFloppin Oct 06 '22

This looks like attempted murder to me.

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u/unpopularpopulism Oct 06 '22

Get hired for a week as a rookie cop. Kill anyone you want. Go find another job.

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u/Pushnikov Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

So, this is complicated. The police aren’t necessarily the ones pressing charges . Usually, the government attorney is the one choosing to pursue the legal action. Inevitably, the suspects defense will be that he had his civil rights violated and can point to the fact the cop was fired as evidence of the failure of proper procedure.

The charges might get thrown out still, remember that this is just at the time of writing. So, things probably still happened since then.

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u/joubledumper Oct 06 '22

If they take him to court, and I hope they do, he has a seemingly easy case for malicious prosecution.

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u/Mr_Archer1216 Oct 06 '22

"The driver, who police say is now in stable condition, was charged with evading detention in a vehicle and assault on a peace officer."

Imagine just eating supper on a date and a cop opens your door and shoots you, and you get criminally charged for it. How is there not a lawsuit and how is he not in jail for attempted murder?

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u/Lavatis Oct 06 '22

Some lawyer is salivating over this video right now...

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u/beachvan86 Oct 06 '22

"This was an individual failure not a training failure". In my world any individual failure of a person who has passed our training is a training failure. And the people I train don't carry guns.

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u/Toodlez Oct 06 '22

Thats how it is for people who load boxes into trucks. How did we get boonswaggled into having such low standards for police?

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u/TK9_VS Oct 06 '22

Our training is perfect and flawless. This was completely unavoidable, a freak accident. This person had no business having the firearm that we issued him. He was an unstable wreck. Totally a loose cannon. Which is why we fired him. But he was totally prepared and well trained when we gave him the gun and badge, because our training is perfect.

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u/Sdomttiderkcuf Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

So this innocent KID is eating a cheeseburger in his car, gets shot by the cops for no reason and still gets hit with assaulting an officer and evading arrest? Holy shit.

So many bootlickers in this thread. They’d only eat a hamberder if it was made of cops boot leather. ACAB.

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u/Golddigger50 Oct 06 '22

This is why you always lock your door kids.

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u/Sdomttiderkcuf Oct 06 '22

The cop probably would’ve busted out the window or shot through the window.

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u/Goseki1 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

11 shots! At a dude he surprised by opening the door in a parking lot late at night? What the fuck....

Edit: 10 shots, my bad

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u/don_maidana Oct 06 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

He got a burger!!

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u/multipleerrors404 Oct 06 '22

If it was a burrito he would've reloaded. Lucky it was only a burger.

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u/Delta_Gamer_64 Oct 06 '22

the burrito would've fueled his escape, just not in the car...

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u/BenSemisch Oct 06 '22

The dude he claimed fled previously, but the cop did nothing to block the car in with his own car? He called for back-up and then didn't even wait 30 seconds when the car was not in any immediate motion of leaving? Dude is a clown.

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u/master-shake69 Oct 06 '22

To make it even worse this kid wasn't even who they were looking for. This kid and (I assume his girlfriend) were just sitting there eating while this fucking waste of oxygen tries to murder them.

While Brennand was responding to a disturbance at a McDonald’s on the North Side at approximately 10:45 p.m., he noticed a car in the parking lot that allegedly matched the description of a vehicle he had tried to pull over on Saturday.

“This vehicle was not the subject of the disturbance call,” said Alyssa Campos, the SAPD’s training commander

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u/Mr__O__ Oct 06 '22

Any info on how this played out after?

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u/trueRandomGenerator Oct 06 '22

This was 4 days ago. I'm honestly shocked we even got to see this cam footage so soon. I'm glad we did but geez this is a shit show :/

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u/CyberMindGrrl Oct 06 '22

And thank fucking GOD for these cameras. Without them the courts would immediately side with the cop and the kid would be absolutely fucked for the rest of his life.

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u/Adamy2004 Oct 06 '22

Kid is already fucked for the rest of his life, gunshot wounds are no joke.

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u/aliie_627 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

Did they/he arrest the kid before the body cam footage was reviewed?

The trauma him and his girlfriend will be dealing with, will probably follow them forever. Probably not too different to a car jacking.

E he was charged.

Cantu, who is now fighting for his life, was charged by proxy with evading detention in a vehicle and assault on an officer.

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2022/10/06/video-shows-officer-firing-at-2-teenagers-in-mcdonalds-parking-lot/

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u/TrailMomKat Oct 06 '22

With a few holes in him, and this only happening 4 days ago, that kid is almost certainly still in the hospital. I highly doubt they could've taken him to the station; at most, he had a cop staying in the room until the kid was exonerated.

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u/holystuff28 Oct 06 '22

The 17 year old driver is still in the hospital and he is charged with evading arrest and assault on a police officer... ACAB

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u/CyberMindGrrl Oct 06 '22

Also didn't seem to be any disturbances going on in that parking lot until that cop created one.

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u/WretchedBlowhard Oct 06 '22

And those bullets were fired at car windows, for the most part. And what was on the other side of those windows? Parking lots for local businesses full of passersby. Seriously lucky the copper didn't negligently murder anyone.

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u/Chummers5 Oct 06 '22

He forgot his training. He's supposed to get in front of a moving car and claim the driver was trying to hit him so he can justify shooting someone.

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u/Lord_Fusor Oct 06 '22

That's exactly what he did. He said kid hit him with the door so he shot him

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 20 '22

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u/ninthtale Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

And "shots fired" and continued pursuit as if it wasn't himself doing the shooting

Edit: I'm dumb and that's what police say whether receiving or issuing fire

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u/xedrites Oct 06 '22

the disconnect between the "shots fired! shots fired!" and the complete lack of motivation to find cover.

He knew he was the only threat.

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u/investingiskey Oct 06 '22

What the fuck is going on? Why did he shoot that kid? I tried to see if he reached for a weapon or something but it seems he just started his car and tried to drive away. You don't fucking straight up murder someone for trying to escape.

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u/THftRM1231 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Article says the cop was there for a disturbance call at the McD, but then happened to notice the ~black~ maroon car in the parking lot, which he THOUGHT was a stolen car he had failed to pull over earlier in the week. So then completely ignoring the actual reason he was there, the cop approached the vehicle.

EDIT: car color

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u/Themoastoriginalname Oct 06 '22

Can he just should have run the plates ? Then you know for sure if it was stolen or not ...

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u/brightfoot Oct 06 '22

In the video you can hear when the audio goes silent he's feeding the plate number to dispatch for them to run and confirm it was the same vehicle that he attempted to stop a couple days before. He then just says "fuck it, i want to shoot somebody" and doesn't wait for dispatch to get back to him about the plates and ends up trying to murder a 17 year old kid, a kid who was not the person he was looking for.

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u/CyberMindGrrl Oct 06 '22

Some tool upthread keeps insisting that the cop had probable cause.

Probable cause defined:

evidence that gives someone a reason to think that a crime has been or is being committed.

The key word here is "evidence". Seeing a car that *looks* like a car you stopped several days ago does not constitute probable cause no matter how many ways you cut it. There are SO MANY similar cars out on the road and to zero in on one single car, then throw the door open without announcing yourself? That's some shitty police work AND a blatant violation of that kid's Constitutional rights.

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u/Tar-Nuine Oct 06 '22

Meanwhile the individual who called the cops in the first place, standing inside the establishment waiting for service, while presumably the issue they called for hasn't been resolved. Then you start hearing gunshots from outside, real encouraging.

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u/three_furballs Oct 06 '22

You don't fucking straight up murder someone for trying to escape.

That's civilian/military logic. This was a cop.

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u/Vegetable-Poet6281 Oct 06 '22

Literally if someone breaks into our house, and they flee out the front door, and we shoot them as they do so, we go to jail? Why? Because deadly force was no longer required at that point.

Why TF do cops get a pass on this? In my hypothetical situation a crime was actually commited in real time. The situation in the video had notging like that. As citizens we are required to know and follow the law, why TF aren't cops held to the same standard?(or what should obviously be a higher standard)

Ego in a uniform with a gun.

Defund the police

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u/GrimQuim Oct 06 '22

The officer is just shooting generally in the direction of that burger place too, any misses and anyone sitting in could catch a stray bullet, that alone seems totally reckless.

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u/TheLeadSponge Oct 06 '22

Bad training... that's why. Cops overseas have almost 10 times the amount of training most American cops have.

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u/mattt5555 Oct 06 '22

Cop was shit at his job. He stood in the door arc. The kid went to drive away, pushed the cop back with the door. Cop starts shooting. No need to shoot anything here

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u/foundoutafterlunch Oct 06 '22 Helpful

How's that guy driving full of holes

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u/ZombieNips Oct 06 '22 Helpful All-Seeing Upvote

There speed holes now he can go faster

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u/oimonsterzx Oct 06 '22

Fun fact: The guy was just eating his McDonalds turns out he was the wrong guy and he is alive.

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u/genregasm Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/10/05/sapd-fires-officer-who-shot-teen-outside-mcdonalds-restaurant-releases-video-of-incident/

The San Antonio Police Department on Wednesday fired a police officer who shot a teenager outside a McDonald’s restaurant less than a week ago.

Brennand had been placed under administrative duty following the shooting on Sunday outside the fast food restaurant in the 11700 block of Blanco Road near West Avenue. According to SAPD, Brennand was fired for violating departmental tactics and procedures.

James Brennand was a probationary police officer who served on the force for seven months, SAPD said. Officers are on probation for one year after graduating from the police academy.

According to an SAPD report, Brennand responded to a call for a disturbance at 10:45 p.m. and attempted to gather information from witnesses when he noticed a vehicle that had evaded him the day before as he attempted a traffic stop because the registered license plate didn’t match the vehicle. The report said the prior incident wasn’t related to the disturbance call at the restaurant.

Brennand suspected the car was stolen and called for cover. But before other officers arrived, Brennand walked up to the car and opened the door, where two teens were inside eating food.

Erik Cantu, 17, put the vehicle in reverse with the door still open and started driving, the report said. The door hit Brennand, and that’s when he opened fire.

"He assaulted an officer!"

Cantu suffered multiple gunshot wounds and was taken to University Hospital. The report stated that Brennand performed CPR on Cantu before emergency medical service technicians arrived. Cantu’s female passenger was not injured.

Cantu was charged by proxy with evading detention in a vehicle and assault on an officer. The investigation into the shooting could take as long as a year.

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u/jesskat007 Oct 06 '22

The VICTIM was charged with evading and assault on a “police officer “. So just to be clear: a couple of teenagers were grubbing on McDonald’s in the parking lot when they were abruptly shocked and confronted mistakenly by a rookie cop. The driver freaked out and drove away fearing for his life (appearing to be justified) and was SHOT multiple times. Luckily he will survive and the passenger was physically unharmed. In an attempt to justify the EXTREME use of force the VICTIM apparently has been charged with multiple crimes. Yet the officer has Ben relieved of his duties. Hmmmmm. Sounds legit.

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u/AndyKrycek6 Oct 06 '22

I'm going to have to block these stories from my life somehow, it will never change and it just makes my blood boil when I hear shit like this

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u/CodeCadaver Oct 06 '22

Once they have eroded their trust to the point of just onsight hostility things will change.

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u/JuiceboxThaKidd Oct 06 '22

Some day soon. Pot's gotta boil over at some point

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u/Apprehensive_Mix8108 Oct 06 '22

How much money did this guy end up getting ?

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u/Tjaresh Oct 06 '22 Silver

Probably got sued for resisting a cop and failing to die.

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u/redstaroo7 Oct 06 '22

He got charged with assaulting the officer with his vehicle evading detention.

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u/Apprehensive_Mix8108 Oct 06 '22

Been there, they beat me and tased me while cuffed, threw me in the back of the car and hit me with the taser again when I woke up.

Edit: the second time they tased me I was sitting in the back of the squad car.

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u/Zeek_Seeks_Gains Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Why I left the states. They came to my house for a noise complaint over a puppy when I wasn’t home. They saw me come home. Decided to go back to my door. I opened it and they busted in, beat the shit out of me, my adult dog attacked, they shot him. Then after they dropped all the charges and apologized like ‘our bad sorry this happened.’ Still traumatized, but can’t help but watch more videos of these idiots.

Edit: my dog lived and died a few years later from cancer in his bladder. He was a fuckin champion. I already had a ticket to leave for Southeast Asia, and one of my best friends took care of him, spoiled him, and loved him until he passed on.

I’ve been teaching English in Southeast Asia since.

Edit 2: Forgot to mention that the cops didn’t identify themselves, state why they were there, or anything. Just knocked on my door then broke in. It was a completely fucked situation and I don’t agree with ACAB.

Cops need way more training. I also feel cops should not be allowed to spend more than 3 months a year working on the streets. We rarely send military personnel on deployment for more than 3-6 months at a time. And it’s not common for them to go on deployment into an active war zone every year.

These cops are essentially in the mindset that they’re in an active war zone all year. That really fucks with someone’s mental stability.

Again cops need more training and less time spent on the streets. I don’t have a way to solve that I’m just saying.

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u/idrow1 Oct 06 '22

Close.

"The driver, who police say is now in stable condition, was charged with evading detention in a vehicle and assault on a peace officer."

If he had just complied and agreed to be murdered, he wouldn't be in this mess.

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u/itsprobablytrue Oct 06 '22

lawsuits where anyone gets money takes years. By that point the officer will have long been paid tax payer money for several vacations before being rehired or given an early pension and money for traumatic experience.

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u/murica_1776boi Oct 06 '22

Cop just threw the door open without announcing himself. I get that he "thinks" it was some suspect he dealt with before, but there is procedures for this. Cop even had his own car he can use to box him in from the back and verbally tell the guy to get out of the car. That cop should have never been given a gun.

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u/CestLaTimmy Oct 06 '22

That, and a gun should never be used to detain a suspect, except in extreme cases where there is a high likelihood of the suspect harming others. You can shoot first in self-defence, but jeeez... Let the kid go, you've got their license

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u/TexanGoblin Oct 06 '22

Yeah, unless you have more than reasonable doubt that the suspect is running to someone else to harm them, shooting a fleeing suspect is never justified.

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u/revercry Oct 06 '22

Yet it keeps happening over and over.

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u/SamIamGreenEggsNoHam Oct 06 '22

Because the police have worked very, very hard over the years to make sure there is no accountability for their actions unless they want there to be.

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u/slade357 Oct 06 '22

I used to be military police and we had actual training and consequences for disobeying so this isn't an issue.

For example we have 8 clearly defined preconditions for deadly force. One of them is actually escape of a suspect but you must believe that letting the suspect go will immediately result in them breaking one of your other 7 preconditions. Dude sitting in a parking lot is obviously not on his way to kill someone.

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u/papasmurf255 Oct 06 '22

Looks like he was murdering that burger tho

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u/FishyFish13 Oct 06 '22

Case closed, he’s guilty

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u/bigblueballz77 Oct 06 '22

Yeah, this is fucking BULLSHIT. How brazen this piece of shit is knowing he wouldn't face jail time for essentially knowing he wanted to kill this kid because he evaded him before.

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u/UncleBenders Oct 06 '22

Yeah and the dude in the car had a passenger as well, he’d only been a cop for 7 months and he thinks it’s fine to open fire multiple times at a couple of kids. I thought you had to be a salty veteran to have this much disregard for human life over the fact that you think they managed to get away from you once before.

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u/i_give_you_gum Oct 06 '22

in martial arts, the lower ranked belts are considered more dangerous to work out with than the more experienced for that same reason. they don't know what they're doing.

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u/stievstigma Oct 06 '22

Yup! The only time I’ve been knocked out by someone was when my sensei had me spar the two new white belts that transferred from a Taekwondo dojo. Taking a full contact, padless roundhouse kick to the nose: I give it a 1 out of the 50 stars I saw.

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u/i_give_you_gum Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

oh gosh, reminds me of getting my nads smashed in by a fellow yellow belt, that's when the teacher was like "ok, so jump slightly and land hard on the heel of your feet, and keep doing that, it should sort it self out"

was probably just something to do to take my mind off the pain

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u/DaBushDwella Oct 06 '22

Pathetic this cops not in prison for attempted murder too. Gotta love the American police gang. Just fire the guy that did literally every last thing you are not supposed to do and tried to kill random people

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u/Korostenets Oct 06 '22

It's like that cop is trying to get a gun pulled on him by opening a door like that unannounced

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u/juggernaut006 Oct 06 '22

The casualty of it all baffles me as he just walks up to the car and opens the door like he owns it.

It's as if this pig thinks he's above the citizens.

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u/SevFTW Oct 06 '22

"As if"? He 100% does. This is exactly what thin blue line propaganda is meant to teach them.

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u/ImJustHere4theMoons Oct 06 '22

The fact that there's little to no chance of him serving a single day in jail for this is so depressing.

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u/appleneedstoburn Oct 06 '22

How is he not in jail? How is firing him for this even close to fair? It’s on video of him straight attempting to murder someone. He took an oath and trampled it and just gets a wrist slap?

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u/itsant8915 Oct 06 '22

He tried to shoot AND KILL this KID because he fled a traffic stop?

A good cop would have had his car positioned so he couldn't get away again.

Seemed personal.

And anyone defending this cop is exactly why our justice system is the way it is.

All good til it happens to you. A law may be passed at any moment making you a criminal. Especially in a land where cops and courts are allowed to do whatever they want.

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u/Lexicalyolk Oct 06 '22

Crazy thing is he’s not even 100% sure it’s the same car. Even if it was he’s definitely not sure it’s the same driver. Absolutely appalling

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u/bruhWhyTho- Oct 06 '22

It was not even a traffic stop

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u/ScornedWhodat1987 Oct 06 '22

Geez, and police wondered why that nobody trusts them? Facepalm 🤦‍♂️

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u/Buzzertjeman Oct 06 '22

Walks up, opens the car door, says get out of the car, and expects to be treated like a cop If this happens to me I assumed I'm getting robbed.

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u/Conscious-Word5008 Oct 06 '22

If some dude opened my door at night and shoved a gun in my face I would think “holy shit, a psychopath, serial killer is about to murder me”, and do everything in my power to kill him first.

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u/YouthInRevolt Oct 06 '22

a psychopath, serial killer is about to murder me

which is coincidentally exactly what we just watched in this video

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u/JTP1228 Oct 06 '22

I really hope this kid never has to work a day of his life and this officer goes to jail

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u/itexican Oct 06 '22

My home town San Antonio. Cop was fired yesterday. Police chief went public and said there was nothing on the recording that justified the cop to open fire. Cop has been on the job like 6-7mos.

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u/m1dlife-1derer Oct 06 '22

Terrible police work. Glad that cop got fired.

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u/MN_LudaCHRIS Oct 06 '22

“Is that a cheeseburger!?!?” Pew pew pew

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u/psanchezz16 Oct 06 '22

Nothing is more deadly than heart disease

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u/818090 Oct 06 '22

"Shots fired, shots fired, SHOTS FIRED. Only person firing shots: him. Great now every other officer that comes to this scene will think that they're gonna get shot at, meanwhile kid probably doesn't even have a gun.

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u/checco314 Oct 06 '22

Yeah, but hes got an assault sandwich.

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u/Canadian_Infidel Oct 06 '22

If an engineer makes a mistake and someone dies they go to prison. Cops it should be the same.

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u/Willtology Oct 06 '22

Engineers have gone to prison for lying to federal regulators without anyone dying or being injured. Cops have the power to kill people or get them imprisoned. The standards and scrutiny should be very high.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

The kid that’s fighting for his life at the hospital is also being charged with fleeing/resisting arrest and using the car door as a weapon on the cop, so fucked up

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u/ScornedWhodat1987 Oct 06 '22

Hope that kid that got shot sue the hell out of the incompetent police officer and the department

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u/ptcgoalex Oct 06 '22

He should serve time in jail

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u/Calumkincaid Oct 06 '22 Silver

"You're under arrest for fleeing the scene of a crime."

"But it was your crime and I'm the victim!"

"That's irrelevant."

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u/Alarming-Recipe2857 Oct 06 '22

Nothing the cop did was legal.. hope the victim is alive

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u/TronPlayer Oct 06 '22

I hope he's charged with attempted murder or something, how is getting fired good enough??

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u/penisthightrap_ Oct 06 '22

Dude should be in jail. He just walked up and opened a dude's car and started shooting

wtf is wrong with this man

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u/LordOdin99 Oct 06 '22

He’s stable.

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u/Hotwir3 Oct 06 '22

You could be stable with your spine shredded…

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u/JustSomePanties Oct 06 '22

Imagine all this without body cam

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u/BoyNamedJudy Oct 06 '22

“So anyways, I started blastin’”

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u/Short_pants_no_shoes Oct 06 '22

This cop is a POS though, you can’t just shoot someone for getting away, they didn’t pose any physical harm

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u/majorwfpod Oct 06 '22

At least this cop isn’t racist, he’s just a homicidal asshole. Remind me again why he wasn’t charged with attempted murder?

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u/Consistent-Ad-217 Oct 06 '22

We need to start giving cops the death penalty, this is fucking bullshit and my taxes shouldn't support this cunt cop.

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u/PerfectWoodpecker213 Oct 06 '22

No real probable cause, didn't announce himself, opened the door without warning, shot at a fleeing unarmed teenage suspect.

JOB WELL DONE, BUDDY.

Hard to believe this wasn't covered in his intensive several weeks of training.

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u/texastoker88 Oct 06 '22

Looked like he was eating a $1 chicken sandwich too

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u/Ok-Release-5785 Oct 06 '22

1.63 now a days

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u/lhswr2014 Oct 06 '22

Memba back when the dollar menu was a thing??

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u/Boogiemann53 Oct 06 '22

They did cover it probably "when in doubt shoot anything you see"

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u/DrewPeacock719 Oct 06 '22

Or in the "just say you were scared because that justifies any use of force" class.

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u/thoolish Oct 06 '22

He got impatient. Could have waited for backup to address the situation without risking lives. The cop manufactured the situation.

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u/hazzcatz Oct 06 '22

Does 'shot's fired' mean 'murder attempted'? Non American asking.

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u/middleupperdog Oct 06 '22

shots fired = send immediate back up and medical assistance to deal with the aftermath. In U.S. as soon as cops finish an encounter that involves lethal force they automatically go on administrative leave (paid vacation) while others investigate and deal with what happened/sometimes cover it up for them.

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u/Nocola1 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

So...as someone in the military, who has had ROE's drilled into their head, Where was the escalation of force, here? Which specific threat required the use of deadly force, and what prompted him to engage while the person was fleeting?

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u/Correct-Champion-488 Oct 06 '22

None of that matters for cops, as proven by motions to everything

Cop was fired, not held legally accountable, and is probably working for another precinct.

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u/Ryl0k3n Oct 06 '22

They charged the kid for trying to run away from someone literally shooting him? Fuck the police....

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u/LyonsKing12 Oct 06 '22

Officer never announced himself. Opens the guys car door aggressively and yells get out of the car.

What kind of fucking protocol is this?

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u/uuunityyy Oct 06 '22

It's 100% illegal for a cop to open your door like this. Even crazier he started shooting at someone who was minding their own business who got scared by an ambush. Jesus fuck, the police are a fucking joke.

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u/FactsMatter19 Oct 06 '22

Why’d the cop play with his watch after the shooting?

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u/powerdyke69 Oct 06 '22 Silver

So he could see what time he ruined his fucking life.

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u/mattt5555 Oct 06 '22

Probably to get the time up so he knew the time it happened

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u/whenItFits Oct 06 '22

Prolly checking to see if he got his step goal in.

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u/Seahawk_I_am_I_am Oct 06 '22 Starry

As a former LEO, this is so fucked. Everything about this “stop” is wrong. Why not pull in behind him with your vehicle? Wait for back up? Maybe not spray gunfire in a public parking lot without regard to who may be beyond your target.

I have a radical idea: maybe rookie cops do not get firearms for the first probationary year, or two. Maybe a solid weekend of training isn’t enough to deprive the rest of us of our rights. Maybe not bully’s and incels only good ol’ boy network fed police recruits.

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u/Lexicalyolk Oct 06 '22

The kids girlfriend was in the car too. She luckily wasn’t hurt.

I think not giving rookie cops guns for a few years is a great idea. It will force them to make a habit of deescalation rather than this fucking absurdity

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u/murica_1776boi Oct 06 '22

In all fairness, maybe the cop thought that the guy stole the burger. This is kind of the real life equivalent to Mr. Krabbs firing a cannon at Plankton for stealing the Krabby Patty formular.

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u/three-sense Oct 06 '22

all units, I’ve found Hamburglar

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u/its_just_fun00 Oct 06 '22

"Get out of the car!"

"Why?"

"So anyway i started blasting"

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u/23370aviator Oct 06 '22

The cop should be in jail. Everyone happy he only got fired is nuts.

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u/DontWorryBoutMainame Oct 06 '22

He looked like he was eating a burger. Wtf was going on? Uncalled for. You got the dudes plates, why murder him while fleeing? Some cops are so fucking stupid.

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u/ybriK024 Oct 06 '22 Starry

Fuck the police

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u/ColtonFromMT406 Oct 06 '22

These are the types of people pur police departments are hiring. Lunatics