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Massive volley of rockets launched from Gaza; Iron Dome launches interceptors [08/05/2022] Video

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u/2013AE 8d ago

wild footage

seen iron dome/MLRS before but the number of interceptions in such a short time is crazy in this one

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u/Big_E_parenting_book 8d ago

allegedly Israel ran into a problem last time where they ran out of iron dome missiles after a day or two of Palestinian salvos and that’s why they agreed to a cease fire.

Knowing Israel, I’d bet they fixed that problem for this next time around.

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u/Pillowsmeller18 8d ago

allegedly Israel ran into a problem last time where they ran out of iron dome missiles after a day or two of Palestinian salvos and that’s why they agreed to a cease fire.

Knowing Israel, I’d bet they fixed that problem for this next time around.

Isnt that why they are making a laser iron dome, so you dont run out of ammo.

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u/csbsju_guyyy 8d ago

DOMES WITH FRICKIN LASER BEAMS!

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u/FloofBagel 7d ago

Jewish Dome Lazers

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u/cheers-salud-prost 8d ago

An additional benefit is the per unit cost of laser defense is lower than the cost of the rockets.

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u/HereIGoAgain_1x10 8d ago

It makes sense, this is the basic "fire superiority" concept of anything, how much shit can you throw at them and how fast and is it more/faster than they can throw back

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u/tundra1desert2 8d ago

3:1 damn near guaranteed win

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u/bermanji 8d ago

I can't speak to the veracity of this but I know there is some resentment among the Israeli brass that they have to depend on American manufacturing & logistics for the interceptors rather than building their own.

But such is the nature of joint projects, and Israel already agreed to have the interceptors manufactured stateside, so it is what it is. OTOH Iron Beam is 100% domestic (though I assume it borrows quite a bit of tech from Iron Dome) and will require no interceptors.

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u/SmallBongHugeDong 8d ago All-Seeing Upvote

The effectiveness of the Dome is insane.

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u/looktowindward 8d ago

The ML model has become incredibly accurate. Its worth more than any other part of that weapons system

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u/MARINE-BOY 8d ago

I’m not being lazy as have tried looking it up but what is the ML Model? Sorry for being stupid if the answer is obvious but it’s not even mentioned when reading Rafael’s info and I’ve noticed someone else asked.

Iron Dome consists of three core components — the Detection and Tracking Radar, the Battle Management and Weapon Control (BMC), and the Missile Firing Unit. Israeli software company mPrest Systems has built the control system of the Iron Dome.

AI component

The Iron Dome uses an AI function to determine if the incoming round of short-range rockets and missiles will land on the population or critical assets of the state. The AI system detects, analyses, and ultimately obstructs incoming threats such as Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV), guided missiles, and cruise missiles.

The Iron Dome (Source: Rafael Advanced Defense Systems)

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u/Kaio_ 8d ago

I would assume that under the hood they are using machine learning for threat classification, maybe impact prediction?

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u/CactusSmackedus 8d ago

It surprises me they'd use ml, because my expectation is that it would be easy to predict impact point based on speed and position alone.

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u/Irilieth_Raivotuuli 8d ago edited 8d ago

You have to recognize the target as a rocket first.

And if you leave the threat detection to mark 1 eyeball, you run a lot of risk factors- namely, reaction speed, accuracy, and reaction chance.

That means you have to use ML to do threat detection for you, and that also means you have to be able to train ML to make distinction between rocket launch and a bird, as well as a intercepted 'dead' rocket that hasn't blown up entirely and a live rocket that needs a interception, a missile of your own that you launched as part of the volley, and a cloud of hot shrapnel that is flying all over the place which might look to ML like a rocket splitting off to form hundred other rockets flying in all directions, causing the system to fire one missile to intercept the hostile rocket, and then empty the rack to shoot down the shrapnel.

After that, you have to prioritize targets that would cause the interception system to stop working if they landed, then prioritize other targets, and let the 'dud' rockets fall off to the desert if they weren't going to be hitting anything important- The interceptor missiles are expensive and limited in number before reload, so if there's a chance you don't need to intercept something you need to take it, and prioritize targets that need to be shot down- Again, something that would take too long if you were using human mind, so ML is the way to go.

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u/mistbeforesnow 8d ago edited 7d ago

Actually this would just be a heuristic algorithm and wouldn't need ML. It's quite easy to intercept these rockets if you know the cross section. Machines can calculate the radar cross section in milliseconds and react. Check out mortar radars. They're pretty much the same thing. They scan the sky, receive a cross section, match it against an internal database, and then aim using physics calculations.

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u/facelessperv 8d ago

so classified they won't share it with the country that help fund it.

but i may be wrong. please correct me.

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u/TemperatureIll8770 8d ago

US Army has iron dome

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u/facelessperv 8d ago

I thought the U S. has the weapon but the software is different. which is the just as important as the weapon.

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u/TemperatureIll8770 8d ago

It has both, there is no iron dome without launcher + command center...

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u/facelessperv 8d ago

you are correct. thanks for correcting me. I see that it happened in 2021 i guess.

once again thank you for helping me learn

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u/Deeviant 8d ago

It's hard to understand why you would use a AI model for that, that's all relatively straightforward kinematics + GIS, it's actually stuff that AI isn't super great at.

I kinda feel that description is dumbed down to the point of being inaccurate.

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u/unlock0 8d ago

It's probably more the object tracking/flight guidance in a a crowded radar/IR picture. Once the first rocket gets intercepted you have shrapnel obscuring your targeting picture. Then, in addition to that you need to prioritize and allocate individual targets to interceptors in that environment. Finally you also need to make sure your interceptors aren't destroying each other on the intercept.

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u/SnakeGD09 8d ago

It does use machine learning--but remember, "machine learning" just means "we have a database of prior events which we graph and produce new graphs which can be used as templates for the next events".

It's still vulnerable to being overwhelmed or hit by faster rockets/missiles that weren't manufactured in someone's basement. It is, however, so expensive that Israel can't domestically afford to reload it.

https://cepa.org/iron-dome-shows-ais-risks-and-rewards/

https://www.haaretz.com/2011-12-01/ty-article/iron-domes-fatal-flaw-it-could-bankrupt-israel/0000017f-e8a3-da9b-a1ff-ecefdf920000

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u/lets_eat_people 8d ago

Iron Dome hasn't bankrupted Israel and has saved them money. The damage caused by rockets hitting their target exceeds the cost of the iron dome interceptors.

Israel can afford $50,000USD per interceptor for every rocket when they are fired by such a poor enemy who has difficult acquiring said rockets. The real risk comes with an enemy like Hezbollah who doesn't face the same difficulties stockpiling rockets.

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u/levon105 8d ago

I work at a defense contractor and work on similar stuff all day. I'll give you an example. Think about a rocket firing in the air. What makes it a rocket? What makes it different than say a drone moving in the air or a big bird or something else? AI/ML will analyze the objects position/velocity/acceleration/size/heat/etc... and then make a decision like "yea this is 87% probably a rocket in the air" and decide to intercept.

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u/Mchlpl 8d ago

It's about the AI component which uses Machine Learning (ML)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_learning

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u/FrozenFlamecz 8d ago

I saw the Terminator, this is how it starts.

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u/TheGameYouLostIt 8d ago

Well they had big sample size to train their ML :D

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u/iLynux 8d ago

You don't even need to train your ML in the real world. Nvidia has physics simulation working down to the millimeter. You can train it virtually and actually dilate time, so you can train your ML algorithm for 10 years but it only takes 10 days in real time.

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u/Mhycoal 8d ago All-Seeing Upvote

But can it run crisis?

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u/Aznp33nrocket 8d ago

Depends on your definition of “run”. Is it playable? Ha, never happen! Super computers just load up Minecraft and put the crisis title screen on to fool us humans.

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u/zdakat 8d ago

It's been training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

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u/UnSafeThrowAway69420 8d ago

um... fucking what

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u/ExpertConsideration8 8d ago

He made it more confusing than it is.. the simulations don't need to be run in "real time".. meaning, they don't have to run for 1 second to simulate 1 second... it's all computing, so they can crank the "speed" dial up to 100x and simulate 100 seconds in 1 second (for example).

This is honestly the main benefit of simulations (not just machine learning) in general. You can adjust the speed to fit your needs & capabilities (computing power).

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u/iSanctuary00 8d ago

The amount of money and lives it saves is mental.

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u/Osmirl 8d ago

Its super expensive though. However the next upgrade will have lasers as an added short range defence.

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u/Stlavsa 8d ago

frickin laser beams?

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u/looktowindward 8d ago

The sharks are not cooperating, however

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u/asr 8d ago

But don't forget the Jews have a space laser that all Jews can time share on.

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u/coachfortner 8d ago

this is true

I swapped two weeks at my condo in Palm Beach with my Jewish neighbors for a couple hours of space laser time

I really can’t wait

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u/iSanctuary00 8d ago

I mean sure, but so is rebuilding infrastructure and homes after it gets bombed. The iron dome is literally preventing an economic collapse for Israel. But it definitely still comes with a price.

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u/yyyyyl5 8d ago

adding to what you said, the iron dome also allow israel to do those operations without starting ground operation. without the irom dome israel will have to send groud forces to gaza because they can't allow thousands of rockets to hit. groud operation is much more expensive and alot more people will die from both sides

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u/eleytheria 8d ago

Don't forget avoiding inevitable international PR fiascos.

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u/Ok_Opportunity2693 8d ago

The other option is full-on invasion and harsh occupation of Gaza, which is way more expensive.

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u/EauRougeFlatOut 8d ago

It’s really not that expensive compared to other guided missiles. An NLAW is ~$40,000, a Javelin missile is $175,000-$240,000 and the launcher is $250,000. Iron Dome missiles cost about the same as an NLAW.

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u/dani85alt 8d ago

Rafael just made a laser dome. Supposed to be cheaper and faster.

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u/Jaynat_SF 8d ago

haven't "just made" it, more like "are making" it, it's still not operational.

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u/BlockBadger 8d ago

Soon LAMS will be real. Soon.

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u/Garrick420 8d ago Take My Energy hehehehe

Seems like more of a Donatello thing but alright.

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u/michaelfri 8d ago

The biggest disadvantage is the price of the interceptor, costing like a luxury car, which is set to stop a piece of pipe with a solid rocket booster in one end, some welded fins and explosive in the front. However when you account the potential costs of the damage that would occur should the rocket from Gaza hit its target, it makes perfect sense. Sidenote, if the iron dome system recognizes that the rocket is headed towards unpopulated area, it will not launch an interceptor.

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u/CrimeForumThrowaway 8d ago

In military terms, isn't $50k a pretty cheap missile? Cheaper than a Javelin by a good bit (not that that's anything similar, but still). And if the Iron Dome can ignore missiles it knows won't land in a populated area, then of course that means far fewer needed.

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u/denimdan113 8d ago

It is, but you remember it to that they just launched 30 ish of them to defend aginst 1 barrage. 1.5 million in defence of 1 barrage. Say these events happen twice a week. Thats 156 mil a year just to replace the interceptors. Not including the maintance and staffing of the launchers.

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u/Wafflashizzles 8d ago

The interceptors only fire off if it's likely that the rocket impacts are going to cause damage or casualties.

Comparatively speaking to just letting the chips fall where they may, the Isarelis are saving money. The economic losses year over year from repairing rocket damage, not to manage the toll on the economy just the threat of that damage is going to exact (loss of business interest etc.), and still not even including loss of life, it's worth it for the Iron Dome.

I think the trade off is essentially pay the 156 mil a year or w/e it ends up being for reloads or pay that plus the added economic damage of repairing rocket impacts that you would've had to anyway. It costs a ton but daddy warbucks is probably footing some of the bill and the costs are probably lower than the alternative

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u/speakingcraniums 8d ago

I don't think they are implying it's a waste. Just that the asymmetrical nature of the conflict will cause Israel to hemorrhage cash. Might even be a decent partisan tactic

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u/MostlyWicked 8d ago

It can't serve as a partisan tactic because of the deterrence established by Israel. Gazan terror organizations only fire rockets when they are ready to accept that they are going to get bombed in return, meaning they can't just keep doing that whenever they want to, they can only do it on "special occasions". Hamas ends up arresting people who try to launch rockets without their orders because they're afraid of being bombed themselves in retaliation.

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u/SnakeGD09 8d ago

In 2014 alone, the Iron Dome system fired 800 Tamir missiles. Assuming these cost about $50,000 USD a pop, that is $40,000,000 USD. Which explains why Israel asked for so much money from the US (albeit part of that package was to replenish iron bombs expended in Gaza). Add on to the munition costs the production of new launchers, radars, training, etc, and it's very expensive overall.

The Javelin is actually incredibly expensive. The US has retained 25,000 Javelins (I assume this is just CLUs--launchers) after sending about 7,000 to Ukraine. They produce about 1,000 units a year. Keeping in mind that the CLU costs about $250,000, that is $250,000,000 a year to requisition 1,000 Javelins. The entire remaining US stock of Javelin CLUs amounts to $6,250,000,000. That's without missiles.

According to CSIS, the US has about 32,142 missiles and the average unit cost is actually $107,500. That amounts to a total of $3,455,265,000 for the total stock.

So overall the total remaining US stock of Javelin CLUs + missiles (well, deduct however many missiles you think have been expended in Ukraine) costs: $4,080,265,000.

But I don't imagine that, until recently, the US ever imagined it would be using more than a couple Javelins a month to blow up a mud hut here and there--not burning through its stock actually destroying thousands of armoured vehicles. From 1996 until before the war in Ukraine only 5,000 had been used.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-house-approves-1-billion-for-israels-iron-dome-after-months-long-delay/

https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/iron-dome/

https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/fgm-148-javelin/

https://www.csis.org/analysis/will-united-states-run-out-javelins-russia-runs-out-tanks

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u/IV4K 8d ago

I think that’s why the new strategy is to launch more rockets than iron dome has missiles.

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u/Zjuwkov 8d ago

Hasn't that always been the strategy?

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u/IV4K 8d ago

I think the accuracy was shit before so you could be sure some would get through as long as you sent up a few at a time.

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u/nekonight 8d ago

Iron dome is designed to only intercept missiles that was "threatening". They don't intercept anything that would land into an empty field for example. So even if they try to overwhelm the system with rockets it would need to be accurate rockets.

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u/Green_Message_6376 8d ago

straight from the pages of the big book of war by Zap Brannigan....

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u/Daforce1 8d ago

So glad it’s saving lives.

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u/Jinnax 8d ago

This one's the best angle, great clarity and no shakycam. First, the camera documents the complete attack, then swings to the view of the awesome response. I don't think I've seen Iron Dome ever look this good +1

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u/ZuFFuLuZ 8d ago

Keep it muted though. The yelling and the music ruin it.

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u/blaaguuu 8d ago Silver

Nah, perfect video for when you need to get your daily quota of "allahu akbars" in under a minute.

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u/kers_equipped_prius 8d ago

Reject Russo-Ukrainian War footage with shitty dark Slavic hardbass. Return to middle eastern combat footage with non-stop Allah Akbar's.

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u/pataoAoC 8d ago Take My Energy Defeated

Muting this one is a terrible idea. I couldn't stop cracking up at the Allahu Akbars fading out as Iron Dome picked off the rockets one by one. There were no satisfying explosions in civilian areas at the end to continue Allahu Akbaring at, just silence

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u/InvalidUserFame 8d ago

Right before the silence there was one last one that sounded like a question: Allahu…Akbar? lmao

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u/pataoAoC 8d ago

LOL I heard the same thing 😂

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u/CrazybyRX 8d ago

100% hilarious.

"Hahaha!! Haha... ha... hawww shit..."

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u/Sempais_nutrients 8d ago edited 7d ago

For real, you just watched like a hundred or more of your rockets all get picked off one by one. The rockerts fade into the sky as little points of light which just blink out as counterfire erases them.

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u/Judge2Dread 8d ago

Without enabling the sound i could hear the „allahu akbar“

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u/AwwwShitHereWeGoAgn 8d ago

I wonder what happens to the one guy that doesn't yell "allahu akbar".

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u/Cayucos_RS 8d ago

Nothing quite like screaming god is great as you watch unguided rockets barrel towards population centers....

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u/Anderopolis 8d ago

They want to kill civilians, that is their goal, to sweep all Jews into the Sea.

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u/BrbReturningToMonke 8d ago

My levels of allahu akbar have been low since the start of Ukraine though, I needed to get it topped off.

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u/EarlHammond 8d ago

We got spoiled from Ukraine with the music. Sobering reminder that not all of the world makes music worth listening to.

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u/homus_balkanikus 8d ago

I wish we could have witnessed the Iron Beam.

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u/TemperatureIll8770 8d ago

You wouldn't see anything except rockets exploding

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u/alghiorso 8d ago

Why wouldn't they add colored lasers and large speakers to blast the pew pew sounds?

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u/Abuses-Commas 8d ago

I agree, why go to all the effort making a military-grade laser weapon if it doesn't light up the sky like a show?

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u/frosty204 8d ago

SCUD storm launched, general.

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u/iSlyFur 8d ago

Ow, ok ok I will work.

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u/SeegurkeK 8d ago

Can I have some shoes?

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u/Mann_Chetly 8d ago

AK-47'S FOR EVERYONE!!!

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u/Vasyh 8d ago

I loved this game so much!

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u/Easy-Bumblebee3169 8d ago edited 8d ago

Most expensive fireworks display of all time.

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u/AutomationAndy 8d ago

A crisp $100k per interception.

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u/kaiser_xc 8d ago

Steal of a deal for Israel.

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u/chromegreen 8d ago

This just seems like a racket at this point. Both sides know the outcome and they do it anyway. Hamas gets more donations. The military industrial complex gets paid to replace the interceptors. The religious zealots on both sides consolidate support. I don't have a solution but I would prefer that US tax dollars not be involved.

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u/DrQuestDFA 8d ago

Anyone else get old school "Missile Command" vibes?

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u/frosty204 8d ago

Generals with the scud storm vibes.

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u/SwitchbackHiker 8d ago

Air Force General with stealth Apaches every time. Scuds never got off the ground.

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u/frosty204 8d ago

laughs in quad cannon army

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u/ThaFuck 8d ago

Missile command had better dialog.

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u/NotThingRs 8d ago

What's more crazy is in couple of years Israel will have "Iron Beam" which is essentially a Laser version of the Iron Dome, estimated at a merely 2$ cost per interception, making those rocket barrages not only useless but also incredible not cost efficient given how poor Gaza is. (Iron Dome interceptors are estimated 35k-50k$)

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u/Kaio_ 8d ago

It will be interesting to see how they'll deploy the Iron Beam. Because it have very short range, they'd have to have them en masse up next to Gaza, which makes them a target.

I think they need to have their power rating at least twice what they're currently for better performance in dusty conditions

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u/Inspector_Nipples 8d ago

Eh, the Israelis military is on top of shuffling the anti missile sites as it is. You’re not the first to think about targeting the anti missile sites. Probably close to the last person.

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u/Kaio_ 8d ago

No you don't understand, I'm not talking about terrorists inside Israel targeting the Iron Beams. I'm talking about whether they deploy them close to the border so they can intercept more missiles, which will make them more vulnerable to mortars, or to deploy them in the interior as a last-line-of-defense technology. They have dismal range, and really need to be right up close to be effective.

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u/LoudestHoward 8d ago

You just have smaller Iron Beams in front of them to protect them.

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u/eleytheria 8d ago

This assumes Gaza actually buys any of the weapons they use.

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u/jeremythelee 8d ago

someone has to buy it. doesn't matter who but it's going to stop being cost effective.

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u/simplegreen99 8d ago

The engineering alone behind this sort of defense is so damn impressive.

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u/moby323 7d ago

This is one of the most amazing things I’ve seen in my life.

I’m old enough to remember when the idea of using a missile to hit a missile/rocket was considered almost a pipe dream, totally impossible with the technology of the day. It was a problem that couldn’t be solved even by the best engineers and scientists in the world with billions of dollars at their disposal.

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u/Safe4Lyfe2021 8d ago

I read out of 100 rockets that were fired 30-40 landed in Gaza

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u/adeadhead 8d ago

1/3rd of all rockets generally do fall within Gaza, so those numbers sound right.

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u/yyyyyl5 8d ago

Well the jihad is the one firing those not hamas so its probably even more

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u/Jhoblesssavage 8d ago

That's what happens when you blindly fire unguided rockets

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u/Zjuwkov 8d ago

Don't worry, we can blame that on someone else.

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u/NacreousFink 8d ago

Amnesty International will call for a war crimes tribunal against Israel.

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u/redox6 8d ago

Wow really impressive. And funny how the Takbir got more and more silent once they saw how the rockets got intercepted.

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u/finsareluminous 8d ago

You can see at least one Palestinian rocket malfunctioned and landed in Gaza, so they probably hit something, just not in Israel.

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u/Praktisk 8d ago

Ah yes the one at 7 seconds.

That was just a rocket that one of the guys on the rocket crew worked on in his spare time. He wanted to prove he could make a cheap rocket that can land like the SpaceX's Falcon 9.

There's no explosion after its glow fades behind some buildings, so I'm guessing it was at least a partial success.

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u/Lumi_s 8d ago

Out of the 80 rockets fired, 46 crossed into Israel, 33 of them were intercepted by the Iron Dome.

34 of them landed within Gaza

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u/Leopard854 8d ago

Last military clash they launched thousands of rockets, and many of them landed in Gaza, one of them even hit an electricity factory and shut down a big portion of the population.

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u/SaltyDot4659 8d ago

I think the term you’re looking for is “power plant”

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u/bigjack78 8d ago

"And in this tank we mix the raw electricity with paint thinner so we get more electricity."

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u/PaterPoempel 8d ago

In that exchange, Hamas killed more Palestinian civilians with rockets falling short than the Israeli bombing campaign.

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u/CrimeForumThrowaway 8d ago

I know this is a serious conflict and everything, but, the waning enthusiasm in the akbars is pretty funny.

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u/AVALANCHE_CHUTES 8d ago

If they’re so brainwashed into thinking “god is great”, then why aren’t they taking it as a sign to stop volleying rockets if “god” keeps striking them all down?

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u/werepat 8d ago edited 8d ago

They've gotta be thinking about why their god didn't let any of their rockets through.

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u/Livingbyautocorrect 8d ago

Well, he let one fall on Gaza... what a fucking joker, this Allah.

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u/redditclm 8d ago

That would require thinking, which akbars are not familiar to begin with.

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u/Cub3h 7d ago

You'd think that after 75 years of losing and constant failures that Allah may not want them to win.

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u/karnstan 8d ago

Yeah, Allah wasn’t so Akbar after all

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u/Domie109 8d ago

You can here the disappointment in their voices towards the end of the video.

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u/BradGroux 8d ago

Which is almost as entertaining as the iron dome doing its thing.

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u/MrMojorisin521 7d ago

ALLAH HU AKBAR!! Allah hu Akbar! … allah hu akbar?

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u/UTMonke 7d ago

My guy was screaming so loud.

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u/bravestar3030 8d ago

lmao at that last sad akbar after they realize their shitty rockets were blown up.

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u/HereIGoAgain_1x10 8d ago

..........................allah akbar?

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u/ManagerNo5172 8d ago

Akbar :(

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u/jixxor 8d ago

All that praising Allah but not a single rocket seems to have broken the Dome. How does that not get them thinking?

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u/imbezol 8d ago

I'm sure it does. Thinking more rockets.

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u/waffleking9000 8d ago

Do the iron dome rounds themselves detonate, or is each shot impacting and destroying a rocket? Because it looks like every single iron dome shot hits a rocket

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u/OblivionAhead 8d ago

they typically get close enough and detonate. the explosions you see are probably not the result of a kinetic hit "metal-to-metal" between the rocket and the interceptor (but iron dome is capable of it. probably a bit less reliable though..)

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u/Rosetta_FTW 8d ago

You must be new around here. Makes up about 90% of the footage here before Russia invaded Ukraine

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u/Spectre1-4 8d ago

I wish people would stop putting shit music over combat footage

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u/RevengefulTrash 8d ago

Does not make it less irritating though. But yea, its in almost all the videos, figures since most wars are unfortunately fought in arabic countries.

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u/yayforwhatever 8d ago

Haha I wonder if they meant for this to be a promotional video for the iron dome…cause it’s probably one of the best ones I’ve ever seen supporting it’s effectiveness 😂

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u/FriendlyBroccoli1159 8d ago

Lol yeah. Iron dome went 'delete' on the rockets

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u/Snafu29 8d ago All-Seeing Upvote

this is indiscriminate firing against civilians.

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u/NotThingRs 8d ago edited 8d ago

It is and it has been this way for dozens of years, no one cares. "Gaza doesn't have Iron dome so it's fair", they said.

Just imagine what would happen if Israel suddenly decides to fire a barrage of it's own rockets at the people of Gaza.

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u/TheGreenBackPack 8d ago

You don’t really have to imagine. Just look at the hundreds of videos of cluster bombs the Russians dropped all over our neighbors to the north for 10 years.

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u/NacreousFink 8d ago

Which is a war crime.

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u/mcluvinoj 8d ago edited 8d ago

It's pretty fucking funny how they yelling God is great when the missile's launch... But pretty quite at the end after watching them all get shot down lmao! Edit : auto correct

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u/edc667 8d ago

I don't know why he's so at aww, this happens annually at this point he should know what's going to happen lol

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u/jonclegion007 8d ago

It's like Centipede but way cooler

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u/Additional-Tiger-764 8d ago

What does Allah have to do with anything. Leave the poor guy alone.

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u/WOOKIExCOOKIES 8d ago

God loves rockets. He thinks they're super cool.

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u/HauserAspen 8d ago

God also likes walks on the beach, sunsets with friends, and playing sand volleyball.

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u/DeusHocVult 8d ago

Which Hamas shill is going to defend the indiscriminate shelling of Israel's residential areas? Those are not precise munitions.

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u/luvcartel 8d ago

They’ll defend this by saying Israel also kills civilians and this is somehow helping them win the war. What they fail to realize is optics is everything in global politics and you’ll always have trouble preaching your cause when your main way of attacking is random rocket barrage into civilian areas.

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u/Leopard854 8d ago

Their charter and guide is also to slaughter all the jews "from the river to the sea", so that doesn't help either.

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u/Zjuwkov 8d ago

I think this is Islamic Jihad, but your comment is still right. Hamas will probably defend it as well.

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u/ministrul_sudorii 8d ago

Is that piece of land big enough for two terrorist organizations ...

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u/Freekebec3 8d ago

Fatah, Hezbollah, Hamas, IJ and god knows how many small militias. The Middle East is rich in oil and terrorists.

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u/FolderEmpty 8d ago

Where are all the Gaza apologists at

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u/queuedUp 8d ago

So much wasted money.

They have to know all the rockets will be shot down.

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u/Dominate_1 8d ago

Ah, nothing says love your neighbor like firing rockets into their backyard

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u/NicNoletree 8d ago

Israel: NIMBY

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u/TMHMRTTPIB 8d ago

Quick! Give Iran more money to totally not develop nukes!

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u/Yaaakk 8d ago

Every news agency: Cruel Israelis shoot down innocent Palestinians Rockets.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago edited 7d ago Gold To The Stars

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u/darknum 8d ago

Israel might be an evil country and does many things that is criminal. Yet they are a beacon of democracy and technology and development. In a region pretty much all their neighbors want to exterminate them and all of them being complete shit holes that nobody wants to live in...

And residents cheering for random rocket attacks to civilians. Yeah fucking no way Arabs are getting sympathy for this...

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u/flyingwombat21 8d ago

The evil is those that gave Palestine hope in 1947. The un offered a 2 state solution which the Arab league rejected. Just imagine how many lives could have been spared if they had accepted. In 1967 Israel offered another deal to split Jerusalem with the Palestinian government. Palestine never wanted peace, they want murder Jews.

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u/legendarygael1 8d ago edited 8d ago

No hate against Palestinians, but how can grown as men yell the same shit over and over again. To me it just comes across as dumbass primitive behaviour. The rockets are not even that efficient and they act like they will run over Israel. These guys have some cognitive disabilities.

Edit - by 'shit' I don't mean any insult on Islam. It could literally be any word repeated over and over.

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u/jonathanzg 8d ago

Wait for the iron beam to be operational. That’s going to look like an episode of Star Wars

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u/Revi_____ 8d ago

And then they cry when Israel does something about it, same story over and over again.

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u/cth777 8d ago

It’s not even like Israel responds in kinda particularly. Imagine a volley of unguided rockets and bombs from the Israeli military

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u/BagofSaltydicks 8d ago

That has to be depressing watching every single one get intercepted

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u/Zjuwkov 8d ago

If only they prayed a bit harder.

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u/demoman45 8d ago

Serious Questikn: I don’t get the constant screaming of “Allahu Akbar”, I mean I know what it means but why does it have to be so fanatical sounding?

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u/HlynkaCG 8d ago

why does it have to be so fanatical sounding?

'cause fanatics gonna fan.

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u/Pudge223 8d ago

My brain knows it’s hard science and countless hours of research that makes the iron dome work but there is something biblical and almost artistic about the way the interceptors rise up in the air and destroy the rockets. It’s such a site to behold.

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u/Construction_Same 8d ago

Person who launched was like:😨😒........😡 MORE LAUNCH MORE ROCKETS NOOWWW!

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

They’re like a fucking broken record. Always have to mute these

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u/esreveReverse 7d ago

Suck it bitches. God hates you and your evil ways

Trying to kill any civilian you can. You will suffer in this life or after.

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u/mrshulgin 8d ago edited 7d ago

Question regarding the iron dome/patriot missiles:

Is overwhelming the system with a sustained attack a viable strategy?

A patriot battery launcher holds four missiles and takes an hour to reload.* I can easily imagine a sustained attack forcing the iron dome to launch missiles faster than they can be reloaded, eventually leaving them exposed.

Is this a thing? Has Hamas/Palestinian militants/pick your acronym ever tried this?

*Edit: I think I got my numbers messed up. A launcher has 4 missiles, and there are 8 launchers per battery. I think the number I saw for 1 hour was for a battery. So 32 missiles per hour. Still, same question haha

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u/elprimowashere123 8d ago

They tried by launching like 600 missiles at the same time last year (kinda worked but not rly), this is much less

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u/yyyyyl5 8d ago

they tried, and for some extend it work but it mostly failed.

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u/Zjuwkov 8d ago

They always try this. That's why all the missiles come at once. Israel knows this too and is prepared for it.

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u/Quietabandon 8d ago

Iron dome missiles are much smaller. A launcher holds 20 missiles. They are pricey though. However the computer calculates which missiles will hit something of value and only intercepts missiles headed towards settled areas. Hamas missiles have a high failure rate.

But there is a solution coming where iron dome will be backed up with iron beam which is a laser system and at $2 and very rapid fire it is much harder to saturate.

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u/Registered_User666 8d ago

And people cry when Israel retaliates. Fortunately they are successful, unlike these idiots praising god for a successful rocket attack.

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u/lares7 8d ago

These palestinian terrorists produce some good marketing material for Israeli defensive weapon systems.

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