r/Conservative Jun 25 '22 Silver 1

‘Lightyear’ flop is a sign audiences are weary of Hollywood wokeness

https://nypost.com/2022/06/25/lightyear-flop-audiences-are-weary-of-hollywood-wokeness/
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u/Jay-jay1 Conservative Jun 25 '22 edited Jun 25 '22

Their script writing reminds me of children who have grown bored with their games. For example when we as kids got to play pool we would start off going by all the rules. After an hour or so, we were just careening the balls around the table, or inventing crazy new rules, or trying crazy trick shots. The modern script writers are stuck in a young adolescent mindset, and are too uncreative to come up with anything truly new and interesting, so they seek to just shock audiences with things not typically accepted in movies.

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u/VamboRoolOkay Conservative Jun 26 '22

Kind of like the Sixties, when old-fashioned notions about tight run times, plot and character development and good pace and action were replaced by druggie ideas about freedom. There were some really crappy, self-indulgent films in the 1960s. And then the 70s... the Hollywood renaissance.

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u/Jay-jay1 Conservative Jun 26 '22

They thought they were such cool cats writing groovy far out scripts, daddio. (Blast from da past)

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u/516BIDEN2024 Jun 25 '22

Last week I went to the movies. Could either see Top Gun, Jurassic Park or Toy Story. Wasn’t sure what decade I was in

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u/PB_Mack Jun 25 '22

Or they just hate bad movies.

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u/JakeHillis Conservative Jun 25 '22

Since when do the masses hate bad movies

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u/lousycesspool Right to Life Jun 25 '22

example: My dad said Cats was 'okay'

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u/IdeaOfHuss Jun 25 '22

Ok is not bad

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u/mcswiss No Step Jun 25 '22

Cats is objectively one of the worst major films ever made. But his Dad called it “Okay”

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u/VamboRoolOkay Conservative Jun 26 '22

I thought it was meh. James Corden as a fat pussy, in the words of Ricky Gervais. I much prefer the 1998 filmed staged version that my daughters used to watch continually... it is superior in every way.

I first heard the Cats recording in 1984 and am still amazed at what a gorgeous, heartbreaking song "Memories" is. A clever Broadway adaptation with what sounds like an Italian opera aria to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cats_(1998_film)#:~:text=The%20film%20is%20a%20recreation%20of%20the%20stage,past%20and%20%28then%29%20present%20international%20productions%20of%20Cats#:~:text=The%20film%20is%20a%20recreation%20of%20the%20stage,past%20and%20%28then%29%20present%20international%20productions%20of%20Cats).

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u/tm1087 Normal Guy Jun 25 '22

This is the truth.

Adjusted for inflation, Independence Day made $1.5 billion dollars.

A movie that is premised on Jeff Goldblum hooking up his laptop to an Alien spaceship to spread a computer virus and Will Smith being able to fly an alien aircraft by seeing an alien aircraft in action.

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u/Spacemonkey327 Jun 25 '22

Independence day was revolutionary at the time of its release for special effects, sound, and cgi. Independence Day’s plot isn’t revolutionary by any means, but the movie did push filmmaking forward.

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u/ThatsNotFortyDollars Jun 25 '22

I went to the movies a lot back in the 90’s. It felt like I saw the trailer for ID about 200 times. Each time made me want to see it even more.

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u/ValueDude Jun 25 '22

You are tripping that was one of the best movies available at that time.

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u/MultiverseOfSanity Jun 25 '22

That's not true. Kids love awful movies.

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u/markstormweather Conservative Jun 25 '22

3 Ninjas was my jam back in 1992

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u/Growupchildrenn Jun 25 '22

I watched Super Mario Brothers until the tape wore out

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u/HamburgerJames I like Ike Jun 26 '22

3 Ninjas, Surf Ninjas, Ninja Turtles, American Ninja, Beverly Hills Ninja

The early 90s truly was the Era of the Ninja

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u/VamboRoolOkay Conservative Jun 26 '22

True, true... but in my own life I am gratified to see that the films I loved as a kid hold up very well as an adult. David Lean's 1948 Oliver Twist blew me away as a eight year-old. Ditto many other classics I watched with my dad when I was a teen.

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u/KawhiThaGoat Jun 25 '22

Jurassic World is still doing good and it’s the worst movie of the entire franchise

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u/PB_Mack Jun 25 '22

But Dinosaurs.

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u/cholula_is_good Jun 26 '22

Which is quite the feat.

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u/barcodez1 Jun 25 '22

This. Except for the damn lesbian kiss I haven’t heard a damn thing good or bad about this movie.

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u/NobodysHero4951 Jun 25 '22

That's the thing. It's just a gimmick designed to distract you from the pedestrian film you are watching.

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u/RedScorpion08 Reagan Conservative Jun 26 '22

But they didn't see it. People deliberately stayed away. I stayed away. I have no idea if it was good or bad. I could wait a few weeks and watch it on D+, but I didn't really care about the trailers. Also not feeling like shelling out $50 to $60 to see a movie made by a company that views themselves as my political adversary.

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u/IveRedditAllNight Jun 25 '22

I didn’t take my kids to watch due to the woke stuff

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u/IdeaOfHuss Jun 25 '22

Impossible!!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

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u/CarsonOrSanders Jun 25 '22

The two are basically interwoven by now.

"We need to tell white people just how racist they are! But I have no idea on how to write a movie!

"Why don't we just remake this beloved classic? We'll change all of the characters to BIPOC and LGBTQIA+, and leave a couple of white characters in so we can use them to showcase just how bad and toxic white men are."

"BRILLIANT!"

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u/greenbc Jun 25 '22

The converse of that is “our writing is bland and unoriginal, and going to piss off what fans remain, what do we do?”

“We hide behind being PC. Sprinkle in some (insert woke here) and when people complain about our crap product we can just dismiss them as bigots for the woke part”

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u/ResearchNInja Jun 25 '22

Chicken or the egg.

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u/VamboRoolOkay Conservative Jun 26 '22

"Toxic." That's the word they use for critics who rightfully point out what crap their propaganda is. "Toxic" critics like the Critical Drinker, Nerdrotic, etc.

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u/Sythrin Jun 25 '22

Are you that triggered of 3-5 second scene? The movie was boring. That is true. The plot went nowhere in my opinion.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22 edited Jul 15 '22

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u/foolfromhell Jun 25 '22

I was disgusted by the repeated scenes in Toy Story 1 where Woody and Lil Bo Peep were flirting. They shouldn’t have shoved that in our faces.

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u/MAGAcracker Jun 25 '22

Doesn't matter. Toy Story 1 made big money.

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u/Xero03 Economically Conservative Jun 25 '22

more are triggered by the voice actor change. on top of it reviews didnt hold it in good standing persay. But yes a 3-5 second scene for a pg or g rated movie is a huge deal.

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u/cholula_is_good Jun 26 '22

Top Gun 2 is going to gross a $B. A 35 year sequel with the plot line of another 1980s hit. The public isn’t tired of rehashed nostalgia when it’s done well.

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u/ashara_zavros Jun 27 '22

Good point.

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u/AdLow8925 Jun 26 '22

This is my thought. I imagine people are just burned out on these obvious cash grabs.

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u/carlosequeso Jun 25 '22

I’m most likely a lot less conservative than most people here, but I seriously can’t stand identity politics being consistently evangelized to me through all my favorite forms of escapism. The ubiquity of social issues that arise in entertainment, a lot of which I generally support, is causing fatigue and eroding that support at an ever-increasing rate. I have a feeling a large portion of my fellow Independents feel the same way.

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u/TheRedBlueberry Jun 26 '22

I'm going to burst your bubble. This is it. Quick, one second kiss during a montage. You need to ask yourself, as do many, if the Hollywood "wokeness" really exists to the extent that you believe it has, or have you been wound up by media?

And remember, gay love stops being a political statement as soon as society decides it doesn't need to be one.

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u/thelastgozarian Jun 26 '22

That's partially why it's annoying though. It's almost as if you can picture a writers room and someone said "well where do we cram in some gay shit?" Rather than some actual plot.

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u/Idontevenlikecheese Jun 26 '22

Or, you know, they just drew inspiration from the world around them. Gay people exist. Why shouldn't they exist in films? The movie doesn't even make any comment, the relationship is completely irrelevant. If people have issues with gay people being casually portrayed in fiction, they probably just have issues with gay people full stop.

None of this changes the fact that the film is still a pile of crap. Having representation doesn't magically make it better. Nor does it make it worse. It should be measured with the same yardstick, that is true equality.

And the yardstick says it's balls.

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u/thelastgozarian Jun 26 '22

Kind of feels like you're making assumptions about my sexuality based on the fact you felt the need to educate me on gay people existing. Mighty bold of you. You don't have to be straight to acknowledge forced in wokeness, or be annoyed by it. The scene had nothing to do with anything, to be fair it probably wouldn't have been as noticable with a straight couple but it was jarring to just be handed a plate of "by the way, they are gay". It seemed ham fisted and I'm apparently not alone.

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u/Idontevenlikecheese Jun 27 '22

The scene had nothing to do with anything, to be fair it probably wouldn't have been as noticable with a straight couple but it was jarring to just be handed a plate of "by the way, they are gay".

This exactly sums up my issue. Straight is neutral. Straight isn't noticeable. It's a no-brainer. But as soon as it's something other than straight, it's sending a message. It's "woke". It's virtue signalling, or whatever. Even though non-straight people can be just as vanilla. That was my point about gay people existing, they exist in a neutral state as well. I didn't make any assumptions about you, it was just to make a point: Why is non-straight automatically laden with some deeper meaning or intention? Why can't it just be what it is and that's all that needs to be said about it?

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u/HelloCompanion Jun 25 '22

Or people don’t want to watch yet another shitty toy story spin-off.

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u/thatwoodswitch Jun 25 '22

No it’s obviously because of the half second kiss.

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u/Red-Dog-52 Conservative Jun 25 '22 edited Jun 25 '22

For years the left has been saying that if you don't like what's on TV turn it off, change the channel...well the same thing applies to movies. In this day and age, there are so many venues for visual entertainment that no one needs to suffer through an ideological message that they don't want to listen to. Going to the movies actually requires effort and has become expensive, if you add being preachy to that mix it's easier to stay home.

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u/badatusernames91 Millenial Conservative Jun 25 '22

Wokeness aside, I'm also very over rebooting goddamn everything. Toy Story 3 was a perfect ending for those of us who saw the movies being the exact same age as Andy and thus growing up with him. It was a perfect ending to the childhood of many 90s kids. We don't need reboots, we don't need revivals, we don't need spinoff on top of spinoff. Come up with some new ideas.

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u/Lost-Photograph Jun 25 '22

This is why it's flopped. Not because it dared to have a same sex couple which I think exist in real life. Can't be sure as I've never left my room and no one talks to me at school.

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u/VenomOnKiller Jun 25 '22

I mean, this was a relatively new idea. This movie can exist as if none of the other toy story movies. This movie has nothing to do with the toy story plotline, so it really doesn't matter if toy story 3 was a good stopping point or not.

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u/badatusernames91 Millenial Conservative Jun 26 '22

So then they could have created a completely new spacehero movie without piggybacking off the fame of a well-known franchise. Unless of course that's the only way they could get people to show up to watch it.

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u/VenomOnKiller Jun 26 '22

Yes. They could have just called it "Mr Space-Man and Robot Cat" and no one would have really known.

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u/Chevleon__ Jun 25 '22

What was so bad about it?

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u/ItsMeTK Conservative Jun 25 '22

A lot of factors are affecting this movie’s box office. The real proof that the country has turned against their wokeness will be when Strange World flops now that they are trying to sell it as their first gay teen romance. But then they’ll just blame racism.

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u/Low-Kick143 Jun 26 '22

Or maybe it's just a bad movie? The average critic score is 60/100.

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u/the_Blind_Samurai Military Conservative Jun 25 '22

I've been tired of subtle insertion of left wing politics in movie for years. I can't remember the last time I went to a movie theater. I just don't bother anymore. It's amazing how much TV/Movies I've cut out of my life.

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u/lousycesspool Right to Life Jun 25 '22

Try Top Gun Maverick you'll be pleasantly surprised

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u/TheThunderKing7 Jun 25 '22

Last movie that i saw in a theater in a long time was Top Gun Maverick and I loved it

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u/rob_s_458 Libertarian Conservative Jun 25 '22

I hadn't been to a theater since 2008. Went and saw Maverick a few weeks ago

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u/MinusPi1 Jun 25 '22

It's amazing how oblivious this sub is to blatant propaganda.

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u/orangesheepdog Conservative Jun 25 '22

It's amazing how many people post on this sub despite hating it.

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u/mudkipz0 Jun 26 '22

All movies are propaganda. You might be surprised, but people here tend to like the US military. Not to mention the movie has some of the most intense aerial combat scenes I've ever seen. It's just a good movie regardless.

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u/lousycesspool Right to Life Jun 26 '22

blatant propaganda

or word of mouth?

I have AMC Stubs and most weeks see at least one movie. I saw it opening weekend. And a second time with my son. Enjoyed it both times.

While in line to see Downton Abby in front of me was a couple in line to see TGM a second time. Today in line to see Elvis, in front of me was a father and 10-12 year old daughter in line to see TGM a second time. She was excited; he seemed indifferent.

I was certainly the youngest person in DA (in my early 50s) and that same age group 60+ was at Elvis (with a handful of youngsters not at DA.)

It has been significantly busier at the theater the last month.

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u/bdoomed Jun 26 '22

The existence of gay people isn't left wing politics

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u/Xero03 Economically Conservative Jun 25 '22

yep very few movies dont got it inserted and or have their story kind of tied into the bs. Also more forgettable or one and done ordeals these days.

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u/Adorable_Wind_2823 Jun 25 '22

Im surprised Buzz wasnt made a POC

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u/VRichardsen Jun 25 '22

I think it comes down to Buzz not having that much of an appeal anymore, a sense of raiding old classics for extra cash, mediocre scores and having to compete with the awesome Top Gun: Maverick. The controversy, if anything, might have helped the movie.

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u/BuddieReddit Conservative Jun 25 '22

This movie was DOA the moment they announced Chris Evans was doing the voice of Buzz Lightyear.

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u/drgmaster909 Idaho Conservative Jun 26 '22

As r/BoxOffice noted it's really going to come down to how well the new Minions movie does in a few weeks. If it performs well, it'll show that the theatrical appetite for kids movies is still there, and that Buzz's bombing was due to its own failures and not a lack of market desire.

So, love em or hate em, go see Minions lmao

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u/jahultgren Reagan Conservative Jun 25 '22

It doesn't matter what audiences think and what they will or will not support. As long as corporations like Disney are filled with woke people on a mission to educate the rest of us, nothing will change. As long as universities are filled with woke professors on a mission to indoctrinate students into the woke mindset, we will have woke people running woke companies. As long as we have woke public school educators on a mission to indoctrinate our children into a lifestyle that you do not sanction, your children will be taken away from you in mind and spirit, and become leaders in the woke culture.

We can talk about economics all we want, but until we take care of the root cause of the culture rot, this war will rage without end.

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u/Black_XistenZ Cultural Conservative Jun 25 '22 edited Jun 25 '22

Corporations will definitely give in eventually once the financial losses incurred from their wokeness become worse and worse. Academia is a tougher nut to crack. When the quality of the education at a university no longer lives up to its reputation because they're more focused on indoctrination than teaching actual skills, it will take at least another 20 years before the university's reputation adjusts (read: goes down) accordingly. The alumnis coming out of places like Harvard or Yale would need to suck hugely before their reputations takes a hit.

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u/Soundwave_47 Jun 26 '22

Corporations will definitely give in eventually once the financial losses incurred from their wokeness become worse and worse

The thing is, it doesn't necessarily seem to be a direct relation though? Dr. Strange 2 almost made a billion and it had lesbian parents.

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u/Black_XistenZ Cultural Conservative Jun 26 '22

The mere presence of LGBTQ characters in a movie doesn't mean that the movie is woke. The NYPost article actually puts it really well: fans are sick and tired of "message movies" which are shoving a woke social agenda into the viewer's face, to the point that it detracts from the entertainment and feels like the movie is lecturing its audience.

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u/Soundwave_47 Jun 26 '22

Yes, that framing of the issue makes sense. However, the scene in question doesn't tie in to the film's message. It just seems like a few seconds scene that's never really touched upon again, at least from the article's description and the video someone else posted.

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u/Black_XistenZ Cultural Conservative Jun 26 '22

Yes, the article explicitly says that the lesbian kiss scene in the movie is just a nuissance that doesn't tie in to the rest of the story and that the movie bombed at the box office presumably because people thought it would be a "message movie", although that's largely not even true.

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u/calmly86 Jun 25 '22

I agree heartily, and that is why I implore conservative parents to be more open about what professions and careers they can support their children in.

The conservative parent who encourages their son to be a lineman and their daughter to be a homemaker is definitely thinking of their individual well-being, in terms of being able to financially support a family and helping to properly raise a family, respectively, but their conservative influence almost ends there.

Meanwhile the liberals are raising their children and sending them off to an expensive “woke” school and they’re aiming for an internship in “activism” and being positioned in the Senate and programming content at CNN or Netflix. Barring that, they’re becoming underpaid teachers with chips on their shoulder, eager to demonize capitalism and conservative thinking to their impressionable students.

If we want a culture change, we need more conservatives in education, the arts, media, etc.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

When you get beaten at the box office by something as laughably terrible as Jurassic World 3, you know you done shit the bed like Amber Heard. My brain was leaking out of my ears watching that dumpster fire.

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u/Opening-Citron2733 Conservative Jun 25 '22

Yeah Jurassic world 3 was pretty bad lol. But I guarantee you I enjoyed it more than I would have the new lightyear movie.

The lightyear movie was a failed concept even before the gay kiss controversy. Replacing Tim Allen was a mistake, and the entire plot of the movie was just bad.

It already alienated a bunch of people before becoming a political lightning rod

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u/MultiverseOfSanity Jun 25 '22 edited Jun 25 '22

As soon as I found out it wasn't a Buzz Lightyear of Star Command movie, I lost interest. They already had a story. Why undo that?

I'm really not sure who this movie was for. It seems to rely on mostly 80s Sci fi nostalgia as well as the nostalgia for Toy Story. Neither of which kids care about. And if it was pandering to my generation that grew up with Toy Story, then it still makes no sense because, as I said, that story has already been told. Pretending the story wasn't told is just a slap in the face to their target audience.

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u/Opening-Citron2733 Conservative Jun 25 '22

It felt like a recon of buzz that nobody needed or asked for.

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u/onlysightlysuicidal Jun 25 '22

Politics aside, it’s gutting a well known voice actor to revive a franchise that ended years ago and had no target audience. It’s clearly aimed at children, but as Toy Story ended years ago buzz lightyear is not as popular of a character with kids anymore. And anyone who WAS a buzz lightyear fan growing up most likely has no desire to see it without Tim Allen or any references to Toy Story or Star Command.

This movie was doomed from the start, kiss or no kiss.

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u/Rezzens Jun 25 '22

Hollywood haven’t made an original good movie in over a decade.

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u/EdibleMrpants Jun 25 '22

It was a bad movie. If it was a good movie maybe the title would apply.

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u/JustHere2DVote Jun 25 '22

Compare to the new Top Gun

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u/GOANJUDADDY76 Jun 25 '22

Make movies for 18% of the population of the world you get 9% revenue in return. Remember the term Chick flick, guys would endure some romantic boring crap for piece of mind with their girlfriend. Seems they are all chick flicks now, but not romantic just boring Crap.

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u/I_poop_rootbeer Jun 25 '22

I was reading rumors that this was all Pixar's doing and that even Disney didn't want to make the movie that woke.

Of course, I don't believe it for a second, because if the movie was successful then I'm sure they would have doubled down on the wokeness

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u/MsSara77 Jun 25 '22

This is ridiculous, I guarantee the movie isn't flopping because of wokeness, it's because no one is all that interested in a movie about a Buzz Lightyear that's a completely separate character than the one from the other Toy Story movies. Anyone who is actuallu avoiding this movie because of an aversion too wokeness is being misled about its content

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u/crogglenog Jun 25 '22

Is the only "woke" thing in this movie a 2-second kiss from a same-sex couple or am I missing something?

I am a conservative Christian so I wouldn't let any kids of mine see that but still, to call the whole movie "woke" because of that wouldn't be accurate. But I don't know much about the movie.

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u/GreyKnight91 Jun 25 '22

It was a peck on the lips between two women. It was insignificant and happened so fast that I missed it while going for my popcorn.

The movie was ok, though otherwise seemed uninspired.

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u/john_thrilliam Libertarian Conservative Jun 25 '22

The slimey way they recast Buzz seems a large part of it. Tim Allen is one of the few out conservativish actors and they come up with some convenient way to exclude him.

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u/TWYFAN97 Jun 25 '22

Not only that but it was something no one asked for and is loosely connected to Toy Story to even be relevant.

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u/rognasistu Jun 25 '22

I need to be entertained, not mentored

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u/brianrohr13 Jun 25 '22

Weary? More like outright reject.

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u/Agkistro13 Traditional Conservative Jun 25 '22

How many more signs do they need?

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u/his_purple_majesty Jun 25 '22

honestly, it just didn't look that good to me

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u/Alohoe Jun 26 '22

I read some comments from other redditors. I can't remember the sub. They were talking about this but they claimed it was because people are just waiting for it to get on Disney Plus to save money. Something about it being there in like 90 days. Just thought I would share.

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u/Refined_Kettle Jun 25 '22 edited Jun 25 '22

it was half a second, calm down, people just didn’t really care that much about the movie 💀

also the original starwars was literally a criticism of the US fighting in Vietnam, and the Doom movie was about colonisation, considering you would probably consider those ideas as “woke” it doesn’t exactly falter good writing or effect audience opinion

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

Go woke go broke.

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u/JJT0723 Conservative Jun 25 '22

When it comes to Hollywood I just watch older films. I dont watch many films post 99 because frankly the quality isn’t too good and they have become woke. I do like that companies like the Daily Wire are starting their own entertainment venture and the films are actually pretty good too

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u/Renegade_Python Jun 26 '22

Saw this today, thought it was pretty good! Hope everyone has a good day

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u/plaxer_x Jun 25 '22

We are not weary. We choose to not watch it. The woke crowd doesn’t actually put money on what come out of their mouths

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u/BluenaSnowey Jun 26 '22

Conservatives crying when two women kiss is so funny

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u/JulianRobotnik 28d ago

You are missing the context here. But your likely an SJW

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

Weary? I don’t think so. It’s more like “We aren’t putting up with your woke agenda!”

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u/Santum Jun 25 '22

Are people here actually suggesting that a half second kiss is why this movie is doing poorly? That desperate for a win huh.

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u/Imafencer Jun 25 '22

mad over a kiss thats .4 seconds long. but yeah we're the snowflakes

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u/r2k398 Conservative Jun 25 '22

A scene they had originally cut because it wasn’t necessary to the plot but then added it back in because they caved to pressure. That’s why it’s a bigger deal than it should be. If they left it in, or left it out, it wouldn’t have been talked about as much.

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u/Cantankerous-Bastard Deplorable Jun 25 '22

I don't think it's specifically about that but a general repudiation of Disney after the execs boasted about making their media a platform for wokeness. Also, there could just be less appeal for this based more on it's art style and tone. Cartoony character models with 'realistic' textures looks ugly. And who wanted a 'real' adventure of Buzz Lightyear anyway, especially one that subverts him as the hero?

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u/SecretlyCelestia Christian Conservative Jun 25 '22

We got a “real” adventure with Buzz anyway. It was a 2D animated show called Buzz Lightyear of Star Command. It came out in 2000, and it was awesome.

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u/Captain_OverUnder Jun 25 '22

It’s a sign of a bigger problem we have with your ideology.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

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u/kevinsftw Jun 25 '22

what is the trans propaganda in this movie?

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u/Wesley5n1p35 Jun 25 '22

I watched the movie and thought it was good.

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u/mikel2usa Jun 25 '22

Sorry. Conservatives can’t like Disney anymore. You’re out.

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u/Wesley5n1p35 Jun 26 '22

Lol imma like whatever i want and vote in whatever way allows me go pay less taxes

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u/mikel2usa Jun 28 '22

Agreed.

I don’t think my bad sarcasm came through.

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u/Wesley5n1p35 Jun 28 '22

Fair enough

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u/expyrian Jun 25 '22

Who cares if two women or two dudes kiss? I don't want to spend 50 bucks at the movie theater for tickets, and sharing snacks.

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u/No_Patience1672 Jun 25 '22

It’s about time people got tired of it. I am so sick of seeing propaganda everywhere

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u/DemosthenesKey Jun 26 '22

What is the propaganda in Lightyear? Haven’t seen it yet or heard about the plot.

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u/KingChin212 Jun 25 '22

Everyone I know (including myself) canceled our plans and refunded tickets due to them making the movie a political statement instead of just a kids movie.

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u/ExtensionFeeling Jun 26 '22

I don't think this is about wokeness. I think it's probably about it being a bland movie that no one cares about.

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u/greynolds17 Jun 25 '22

I think its just because the movie was bad and they are milking the toy story franchise...not "woke" or whatever

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u/notPlancha Jun 25 '22

It's a 2 sec kiss chill

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u/vampiresaccount Jun 26 '22

problem is the wokeness is too in everyones face. if a character was just nonchalantly talking about their same sex spouse it would just be seen as normal. "steve said his husband just got a higher paying job." "hey good for steves husband, lets invite them on the cruise this year since now they can afford it" or whatever. then afterwards you can go back to your cruiseship chainsaw massacre plot or whatever your movie is about.

done, normal, and to the point.

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u/yaboytim Minority Conservative Jun 25 '22

Tbh I think it's more due to bad word of mouth than wokeness. If they had the same amount of "wokeness", but actually made a decent movie, then more people would have seen it.

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u/DavidExplorer Jun 25 '22

…or, y’know, it just isn’t a great movie.

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u/TeamPete202X Jun 25 '22

Didn’t see the movie, so honestly asking: what was the wokeness in it? I know there was controversy about it being banned for a same sex kiss, but was there anything else?

Again, haven’t seen the movie so I’m honestly asking.

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u/mikel2usa Jun 25 '22

No. Just a half second kiss. But it’s not fun to claim it was a undesired movie, but ITS WOKE.

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u/TeamPete202X Jun 25 '22

People gotta chill

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u/JulianRobotnik 28d ago

Parents just don't want to see that in a kids film, combined with the non stop marketing from the media about the gay kiss.

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u/mikel2usa 28d ago

But there are tons of kisses in Disney movies. True loves first kiss is a constant theme. Every little girls princess movie almost ends a kiss.

As long as it isn’t a “overly sexual” kiss it isn’t any different, unless the concern is that seeing same sex kissing will turn your kids gay, and also that outcome is bad. Is that the concern?

I personally don’t think anyone could show me or you in our childhoods anything to “turn me/you gay.”

If there is a single background kiss, even this would be proportional to the number of same sex couples there are.

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u/thethingthattrembles Jun 25 '22

It’s either that. Or the movies they are making now are just plain shit?

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u/obi318 Jun 26 '22

Could also be the fact the movie will be on dainey plus in a couple months.

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u/KyleDoesAGames Jun 26 '22

It could also be that people are too sensitive about gay people to see anything other than that in the movie.

I mean how many people are review bombing and refusing to watch it just because of a tiny little kiss scene?

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u/Aaronindhouse Guns, Speech, Life Jun 26 '22

For me personally, I didn’t see it because not casting Tim Allen as buzz killed any interest for me. It doesn’t help that I don’t get excited for new movies based on old properties I saw as a kid anymore. Hollywood generally resurrects the name only and not what made these old properties great.

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u/Fragrant-Antelope-15 Jun 26 '22

Wtf is woke about Lightyear other than that 2 second kiss? Why is that so objectionable, and why is that worth boycotting the movie in protest?

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u/Sereneblue Jun 25 '22

But it's not in time to stop Amazon from fucking the Lord of the Rings TV show. There's still some way to go before they really learn how tired of this bullshit people are.

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u/Odd-Chip-1751 Jun 25 '22

Right move. Saudi Arabia would be proud

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u/stargunner Conservative Jun 25 '22

maybe it's just not a good movie.