r/Conservative Imago Dei Conservative Jun 26 '22 Wholesome 1 Silver 1

Life is worth fighting for.

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u/AmosLaRue I've got Sowell Jun 26 '22

You know. Whenever I start to think my artwork is good, someone comes along and posts something fabulous yet casual and I just feel like garbage....

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u/Hefty_Strategy_9389 Jun 26 '22 Wholesome Heartwarming

If only the best songbirds sang in the forests, how quiet and dull it would be.

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u/AmosLaRue I've got Sowell Jun 26 '22

Awe! That's very sweet. Thank you!

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u/Hefty_Strategy_9389 Jun 26 '22

I’m a filthy plagiarist just trying to comfort you, cousin.

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u/AmosLaRue I've got Sowell Jun 26 '22

It was still a nice thing to say. Most thing people say to comfort others is something they heard or read from someone else.

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u/Hefty_Strategy_9389 Jun 26 '22

I suppose old sayings survive as long as they do because there’s no better way to say it.

The truth doesn’t require many words.

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u/AmosLaRue I've got Sowell Jun 26 '22

Amen

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u/SPCTomB2 Jun 26 '22

My artwork quality is slightly better than the worst artwork seen in school assignments. I’m admittedly terrible and couldn’t possibly do anything like the image above.

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u/ScreamThyLastScream Jun 26 '22

Everyone starts somewhere. You get better by keeping at it. Also I love artwork even crappy artwork.

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u/junewei93 Jun 26 '22 Ally

I would hurt myself with a sword, but I do love the sentiment of this post.

Lots of women are pro-life, and I'm so tired of people acting like this is a predominantly male perspective. I think I know more pro-choice men than pro-choice women, actually.

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u/Tinymaru Jun 26 '22 Ally

Lots of women are pro-life

Really weird I was called a man multiple times today for being pro-life.

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u/junewei93 Jun 26 '22

Same!

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u/AlternativeKind5228 Jun 26 '22

I love it when I see self respecting women like you. The left keeps pushing the narrative that its men against women, and they keep excusing prostitution and porn as empowering, and not abuse. In the end of the day, no matter what someones position on the latter, I don't know a single parent who would push their child to become a prostitute.

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u/ReverendCatch Christian Conservative Jun 26 '22

clearly only men are pro life, because abortion doesn't affect them

it's not like it's their genes are on the line or anything

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u/ultimis Constitutionalist Jun 26 '22

It's a fact that there are more pro-life women than men.

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u/junewei93 Jun 26 '22

Not surprised at this. At the risk of being canceled, I think it's harder for most women to imagine harming a baby. Blah blah, nurturing instincts and all that jazz. I mean, that's why I'm pro-life - there's no big thought experiment or reasoning behind it, I just want to keep babies safe.

I'm not trying to slander men or say they're cool with infanticide, just that perhaps they've got less of a hardwired "protect baby" instinct than women in general.

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u/Select-Emotion3754 Conservative Jun 26 '22

That and there are many men who wanna f around with lots of women and not pay that 18 year child support per child.

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u/Usual_Zucchini Jun 26 '22

I don’t think it’s slander. I’m a woman who has never been pregnant but have had women tell me they just feel different, more protective, even, when pregnant. Although I don’t think that a woman needs to have been pregnant to understand that perspective. It’s a biological reality that we have a different relationship with our babies because we physically grow them. Of course, biology is hate speech now.

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u/Poopinatube29 Jun 26 '22

I believe both genders are hardwired to protect kids. The male and females of the pro-abortion side just have different reasons to why they choose not to protect them. Those men are feminist men. In their mind as long as they agree and never condemn a women for anything for she can do no wrong then maybe they have a snowballs chance in hell to get just a whiff of her sex. Watching it in action is pathetic really.

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u/junewei93 Jun 26 '22

Yeah, the creepy guys who do it for a chance at sex are legitimately the worst, I think everyone can agree on that.

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u/PeanutButterTaco2018 Jun 26 '22

Men need abortion more than women. It’s an out. A way to shirk duty and responsibility. The worst way to do it as well.

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u/AmosLaRue I've got Sowell Jun 26 '22

Absolutely! I feel like women have been conned by wealthy men (who have side pieces), loser guys, and Satan into thinking that babies are a burden and should be killed in the womb

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u/PeanutButterTaco2018 Jun 26 '22

Yes. The left has turned being pregnant into an existential threat and cosmic horror

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u/ChainingScroll2 Jun 26 '22

It is an existential threat when many can't even afford to support themselves. Yes, there are some out there that use it as a form of contraceptive and that's not okay but is that really the type of person you want bringing kids into this world?

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u/ScreamThyLastScream Jun 26 '22

You never know, parenthood might change them. But unfortunately probably not, and another maladjusted, abused, and self hating person is raised. The cycle continues.

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u/UppityTurtle Constitutional Conservative Jun 26 '22

I believe in God, but it’s difficult to take someone seriously when they use Satan in an argument. Just saying.

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u/Lionheartcs Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

Do you believe in Christ?

Would Satan have been able to “tempt” Christ with rule over the whole world if he couldn’t back it up?

Why did Jesus tell Peter that “Satan has demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat.” ?

1 John 5:19 says “We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one.”

Satan is real, Satan is in control of the world. Stay in a state of constant prayer, and guard your heart, your mind, and your family.

God has promised to deliver us from evil in the end, but nowhere did he promise that we wouldn’t suffer while here on earth. In fact, he told every Christian to expect persecution.

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u/Usual_Zucchini Jun 26 '22

I used to think it was kinda ridiculous but then I lived through the last two years and now I fully believe satan is actively at work.

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u/UppityTurtle Constitutional Conservative Jun 26 '22

So you believe God gave humans free will, but allows satan to influence people’s choices? Seems to me that people have complete freedom to choose good or evil and simply choose evil because they value the material world more than God’s kingdom. I don’t think it’s satan, I just think it’s people.

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u/ChainingScroll2 Jun 26 '22

I'm with this guy. ^

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u/Usual_Zucchini Jun 26 '22

Maybe. I’m not a theologian. All I know is that evil is real and I believe Satan is behind it.

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u/AmosLaRue I've got Sowell Jun 26 '22

Nice new account, Troll

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u/MeLittleSKS 2A & Small Government Jun 26 '22

Any time it's surveyed, pro life people are pretty much split between men and women. It's not a gendered issue, but the left tries to claim it's men vs women. it's not.

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u/junewei93 Jun 26 '22

I'm ashamed of those women that think it's okay, and maybe that colors my idea of the likelihood that they believe those things. I'm very willing to admit this is an emotional issue for me.

Still proves that women aren't all pro-abortion though, and that's often how it's painted. I'd hate for someone to think that about me, just because I'm a woman who leans left on some unrelated topics.

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u/ScreamThyLastScream Jun 26 '22

So we all live in different bubbles, and in mine it is only women who are 'disappointed' or making comments about this. Most of it seems to center around women's health and access to the care so they don't back alleyway their babies into a dumpster.

They all seem to be missing the point that abortion should not be a contraceptive.

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u/AdLow8925 Jun 26 '22

I find aggressively pro-choice men to be disgusting. Like it's one thing to stay out of it completely, but men who are actively pro-abortion gross me out way more than women who are pro-abortion.

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u/marzipan332 Jun 26 '22

Also a pro-life woman here. I’ve noticed the same thing.

The main reason why men on the left claim to be “pro-choice” is because they’re anti-responsibility. They want to be able to have unprotected sex with as many women as they want, without the consequence of a child.

They’re the same men who encourage promiscuity in girls under the guise of “empowerment”.

They frame both promiscuity and abortion as “empowering choices” and ways to “exercise control”, when in reality they just want to be able to use women and then throw us away when they’re done getting off.

They’re selling a lie by convincing women that it’s empowering to have no respect for ourselves or the sanctity of life.

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u/FoMoCoguy1983 Jun 26 '22

I am a guy and I am pro-choice

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u/aseriousfailure Jun 26 '22

You are entitled to your opinion, but just know most people here (including myself), believe that abortion is murder.

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u/FoMoCoguy1983 Jun 26 '22

Regardless of your opinion, and I dont necessarily disagree, but there should ALWAYS be a carve out in law for instances of rape/sexual assault and incest.

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u/aseriousfailure Jun 26 '22

Would be awesome to do that if it didn't mean that rape/incest accusations would go through the roof as people try to find a loophole.

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u/ultimis Constitutionalist Jun 26 '22

Simply the rape exception requires a Rape Kit. Rape Kits need to be performed the same day as the rape. So someone faking a rape accusation isn't going to run to get a Rape Kit as they could get a morning after pill. Or just in general they aren't expecting to get knocked up based on their fling. Trying to claim rape a month later isn't going to work.

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u/ultimis Constitutionalist Jun 26 '22

That isn't a pro-choice stance.

  • Less than 30% of Americans support no restrictions on abortion (Hard left, Pro-choice)
  • 10% of Americans support a few restrictions (Left, Pro-Choice)
  • 40% of Americans support few exceptions (Right, Pro-Life)
  • 20% of Americans support a near full ban (Hard Left, Pro-Life)

If you are a part of the largest plurality, you aren't pro-choice. Though Pro-Life and Pro-Choice are mostly partisan terms as most people don't actually understand what the terms associate themselves with.

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u/ZodiacSF1969 Jun 26 '22

Where do you get your stats from?

I'm anti-abortion but a lot of the stats you see in mainstream media make it seem as though nearly 2/3 of the country want abortion available in most circumstances.

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u/ultimis Constitutionalist Jun 26 '22

Gallup Yearly Polling. It's showed the rough percentages above since the 90's. They dance around, but that's roughly what they are.

Gallup asks specific questions as I listed, and those are the percentages listed. Pro-life/Pro-Choice are more closely aligned to party affiliation. It's a label that doesn't actually tell you what people believe.

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u/jumpinjackieflash Jun 26 '22

No. Why should a baby be killed for someone else's crime. It's not as if the baby has criminal genes after all.

Also, women who were raped and had an abortion say that the abortion was worse and more painful than the rape. https://afterabortion.org/abortion-doesnt-help-rape-victims-say-women-whove-been-there/

There's such a thing as adoption, which means the baby will have a loving home.

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u/Shamboozless Conservative Jun 26 '22

but there should ALWAYS be a carve out in law for instances of rape/sexual assault and incest.

Why?

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u/junewei93 Jun 26 '22

There are lots of you guys.

Not to assume why, but when I've talked to some people I know about it several have expressed a combo of disinterest in the topic and being browbeat by women into it. Your mileage may vary, but it's sad that some people make up their minds that way.

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u/IronicEyeCancer Jun 26 '22

I used to be very left when it came to abortion, or at least I thought I was around 10 years ago. But this push for on demand abortions as a form of birth control is so radical it's beyond left. I realized that the main reason I was more pro-choice was that I never questioned anything. I just listened to what I was told because I wanted to be a good feminist ally. Now that I've really evaluated my thoughts and opinions and utilized my knowledge as a biologist, I've come to a more rational belief of 12 weeks gestation as the limit.

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u/junewei93 Jun 26 '22

a good feminist ally

I think this has gotten a lot of guys, and I'm sympathetic to an extent. I mean, it's nice when men want to be respectful and listen to my thoughts, but if I was that wrong about something I'd hope people would call me out on it.

12 weeks is as reasonable a limit as I've encountered. Most push for at least double. I wish it just didn't need to be an issue, but if it's going to be 12 weeks is far better than most suggestions for sure.

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u/MerlynTrump Jun 26 '22

good feminist ally is kind of soft bigotry of low expectations. Women want equal rights, they need to accept equal responsibility.

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u/rolata Jun 26 '22

I dont understand why its no longer possible to have the middle of the road approach to abortion. Like you said, most people including me support a reasonable limit like 12 weeks. Anything past 20 is outrageous...my guess is most people I know even who are hard pro choice are not pro late term abortion. This is really the silent majority on the issue i think.

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u/IronicEyeCancer Jun 26 '22

my guess is most people I know even who are hard pro choice are not pro late term abortion

Most lefties don't want any restrictions now. Even though they can acknowledge the statistics of when most abortions occur, which is under 15 weeks, they still want no restrictions. It's kind of crazy.

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u/IronicEyeCancer Jun 26 '22

12 weeks is far better than most suggestions for sure.

The reason 12 weeks is a good compromise is because that's when the beginnings of sensation development occurs. Before then it is impossible for a fetus to feel anything at all, so an abortion would be as humane as possible.

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u/junewei93 Jun 26 '22

Yeah, I've read that. I understand the idea behind it, even if I still can't wrap my head around actually supporting it. I'd be happier with a 12 week limit than a later one, for sure.

I'm usually a facts before feelings sort of person but this is just the one issue where I lose most rational thought. It's a baby, it's precious, keep it safe - literally my entire mindset.

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u/90daysismytherapy Jun 26 '22

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/06/13/about-six-in-ten-americans-say-abortion-should-be-legal-in-all-or-most-cases-2/

Statistically women are more pro abortion rights, which seems pretty obvious, since having a right means you can not have to.

The research shows most of the country wants at least some abortion rights

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u/junewei93 Jun 26 '22

Just because women may be more likely to say something doesn't make it any more correct or acceptable, nor does it invalidate the many women who aren't okay with infanticide.

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u/90daysismytherapy Jun 26 '22

Nobody said it did relating to the morality one way or the other.

But you said you are tired of people acting like this, pro-life, is predominately male. But people are not acting like that. It just statistically is the case.

Even in Republican polling specifically, the ratio of men being “pro-life” is significantly higher than women.

Whether that is right or wrong of those people morally is a separate issue.

Because outside of the morality question, your post just brought up a point, I thought you would like to know the stats.

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u/junewei93 Jun 26 '22

I'm not interested in a tiny difference, I'm talking about the amount of times women advocating for pro life postitions online are just assumed to be men because they happen to have a certain opinion.

Acting as if some vast majority of women are cool with infanticide is laughable.

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u/dogdugdog59 Jun 26 '22

Now wouldn’t that be something? A fantasy game with a female lead fighting for her child. 🤔

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u/Matthew-IP-7 Jun 26 '22

Or a novel about that.

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u/MerlynTrump Jun 26 '22

could have the villains be stylized representatives of various anti-natal corporations.

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u/island_jackal Jun 26 '22

Technically one of the Marvel movies has a woman fighting for her children, but in a deranged, villainous way.

It's in Dr Strange - multiverse of madness. Part of what the Scarlet Witch wants is to go to a universe where her children are actually born and alive. She ends up killing a lot of people. The overall idea of the plot is good, but the movie has tons of bullshit, so I don't consider it a good movie.

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u/Shamboozless Conservative Jun 26 '22

Eh, thats more of her chasing a fantasy and using parallel universes to go after it.

That would be like me having a fever dream that I had a harem of hot babes, and when I woke up, I decided to go on a rampage and destroying universes one by one til I found the reality where that happened and took over it.

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u/island_jackal Jun 26 '22

That's not how she views it, but I agree that she has a messed up and distorted view.

I can't think of any closer example, though, but I'm sure there are some.

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u/Drinkable_Pig Jun 26 '22

Not quite but Monument Valley 2 is the closest you'll get to that so far

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u/KnowledgeAndFaith Imago Dei Conservative Jun 26 '22

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u/AdLow8925 Jun 26 '22

This is such a beautiful drawing

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u/Kovitlac Jun 26 '22

Okay this is an awesome drawing.

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u/ergoegthatis Jun 26 '22

Remarkable! Beautiful art and noble message.

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u/Flappy_meatcurtain Jun 26 '22

Damn, what a great picture. From technique to message. Great stuff.

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u/Papa-Pepperoni-69 Conservative Jun 26 '22

I obviously can’t speak for everyone, but I feel like most conservatives are okay with abortion with exceptions (rape, incest, danger of the mother’s life). A lot of conservatives are against abortion because it’s just another way for people to avoid responsibly at a terrible cost, but the reasons I listed earlier are not because of a lack of responsibility.

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u/ALargeRock Jewish Conservative Jun 26 '22

Maybe if liberals would settle for safe legal and rare we wouldn’t be here.

But noooooo. Y’all want to talk about literally waiting until a baby is delivered then decide if you want to abort or not (Virginia), libs want to scream about and brag about their abortions; how they use it as birth control.

If liberals didn’t act like a bunch of crazy devil worshiping villains, then the right would have accepted safe, legal, and rare.

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u/wow_man_ Jun 26 '22

“But noooooo. Y’all want to talk about literally waiting until a baby is delivered then decide if you want to abort or not (Virginia)”

UHHH credible citation?? the only time i hear this bullshit is when conservative and christian fanatics are fear mongering. why do this? you know damn well if an abortion is happening incredibly late in a pregnancy it’s not by choice. have you actually met someone that had an abortion or do you just go off these make-belief stories? christ

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u/ALargeRock Jewish Conservative Jun 26 '22

https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/virginia-governor-abortion-ralph-northam-video/

https://youtu.be/HB43tfyJdX4

It’s almost like you rage instead of using google. Rage less and learn more. It might help you in understanding why people say things you think aren’t true (but actually are).

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u/Captain-Keilo Jun 26 '22

Heavy.com? Also you do realize that a third trimester abortion is legal in a place like New York and just like everything in this abortion debate the rare exception will become the new normal. That is how it’s been for 50 years

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u/ALargeRock Jewish Conservative Jun 26 '22

Because the text was quoted for reading. I also linked the interview that the quotation was from, just in case the text wasn’t reliable enough.

First I’m told that wasn’t said, then when proven it was said, now I’m told that’s normal. You guys can’t even keep your own talking points straight.

That is how it’s been for 50 years

Slavery was around and legal for many years. Still didn’t make it right or moral.

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u/Eagle_1776 Jun 26 '22

this is spot on. 10 yrs ago I was pro choice, but the left just became so obsessed with murdering babies. They moved far passed the occasional abortion and seem to be flaunting it purely to annoy religious people

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u/Papa-Pepperoni-69 Conservative Jun 26 '22

I personally don’t live in any of those states, but I do agree that it is a bit extreme. I know Alabama for example has no exceptions. Another advantage of living in a purple state is that the conservatives are more moderate, at least in their policy.

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u/greenthing Jun 26 '22

So it's not about the children, it's about punishing women?

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u/Hypnotic-Highway Conservative Jun 26 '22

Nope. It's about saving human lives that would've been snuffed out without a second thought.

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u/Papa-Pepperoni-69 Conservative Jun 26 '22

Where do I say that…

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u/GunGuy301336 Jun 26 '22

Most conservatives only want to ban abortions done because the parents don't want to live with the responsibility of raising a child. Which unfortunately is the most common type https://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

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u/KnowledgeAndFaith Imago Dei Conservative Jun 26 '22

What’s more pro life? Saving one life or saving none?

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u/island_jackal Jun 26 '22

My fetus was not going to make it

If the fetus wasn't going to make it anyways, I don't think most of the "abortion is murder" crowd would have a problem with that. You can't murder something that is already dead.

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u/Andyyougoonieee Conservative Jun 26 '22

How many weeks were you when this happened?

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u/KnowledgeAndFaith Imago Dei Conservative Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

Right so you had a pro life abortion. Hence why people who say “you aren’t pro life, you are just anti abortion” have no idea what they are talking about.

This is why every pro life bill has at minimum a life of the mother carve out clause. The pro life position isn’t actually complicated. It’s just misunderstood.

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u/kaioto Constitutionalist Jun 26 '22

No, the problem is the "Pro-Choice" crowd are factually challenged - in some cases deliberately so.

There's almost no condition that presents imminent threat to the life of a mother that's necessary medical treatment is just "an abortion." There are plenty of terrible circumstances that require a treatment or surgery that happens to have the death of a child in utero as an unintended side effect of the treatment. Those are not abortions. Surgical repair of the impacted tubes of an ectopic "pregnancy" is one such example.

Where things get deliberately confused are people who are willfully obtuse about "risks to health" such as "emotional distress." There's a slew of people (like NARAL) who will argue that anxiety and depression from an unplanned pregnancy is grounds to just merc the kid. There's a side industry of psychopaths that would rather surgically dismember a 28-week-old fetus (and harvest the parts) than deliver the premature baby by c-section.

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u/KnowledgeAndFaith Imago Dei Conservative Jun 26 '22

Doctors making medical life-saving decisions in a hospital set up to save lives won’t be witch-hunted. You’d have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you life wasn’t in imminent danger.

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u/Inevitable-Pound-778 Jun 26 '22

Actually, hospitals are very good at legalese to skirt around the abortion ban laws. It won't affect as many people as you think.

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u/Alutherv Jun 26 '22

That's just straight up not true about those bills, a lot of them are strict bans without exceptions

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u/KnowledgeAndFaith Imago Dei Conservative Jun 26 '22

Lol find me ONE

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u/jakeallen Jun 26 '22

I'm sorry for what you went through. It is more than I have had to bear and I would not wish it on anyone.

I wouldn't want the government to legislate whether a firefighter/medic pulls a child or an adult out of a burning car first. Some situations would call for one or the other.

Likewise I don't want the government valuing the life of the child over the mother in complicated medical situations. If someone won't make it, the government doesn't get to say who.

That's different than the government not recognizing the life of the unborn child.

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u/Trumpdidwin RIGHT Jun 26 '22

You aren't in this picture. In your pic, the pre-born baby has the sword and is fighting to protect his mom.

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u/pishipishi12 Jun 26 '22

I'm pregnant with #2 right now and we had to go through some extra genetic testing in the second trimester. If anything was super genetically wrong we talked about aborting and it was the most terrifying thing in the world. I can't raise a medically complex child at all, but the idea was so hard. I'm in the same boat as you. Luckily, he is genetically healthy and due in September!

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u/rbgnx Jun 26 '22

This hits hard.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Abortion was never meant as a form of contraceptive. Try adoption if you can't practice safe sex.

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u/Inevitable-Pound-778 Jun 26 '22

So only consensual sex results in pregnancy?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Of course not but that's a rarity among abortions. And Texas isn't prosecuting rape abortions for example

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u/positively-possible Jun 26 '22

How many children have you adopted?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Well, I'm adopted. My brothers adopted. My wife's adopted. So you can guess what I've done. There are tons of families who can't have children that want them. So GTFO with your nonsense.

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u/positively-possible Jun 26 '22

Yet, there are roughly 500k children still in the foster system. Yes, there are many that can’t have them and want to adopt but there are also many who preach adoption and will never do it themselves. It’s not nonsense, people just only want to see the good in forcing pregnancies and not the bad or negative domino effect that takes place. But sure, it’s nonsense. I’m glad it worked out for you and your family though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

There are tons of cheap pregnancy prevention methods. Some of it free via various places. Don't get monetary help with adopting though.

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u/kaji8787 Conservative Jun 26 '22

For a sec I thought I was on the d&d page. Great print

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u/Away-Quantity-221 Jun 26 '22

Beautiful. Moms are part grizzly bear, part warrior, all love.

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u/Blo1630 Jun 26 '22

Hopefully this teaches responsibility. There’s a lot of people who shouldn’t have kids but it’s not the babies fault.

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u/Rush2201 Millennial Conservative Jun 26 '22

There is more to being conservative than one's stance on abortion. We aren't a hivemind that universally agrees on every issue.

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u/Rellekk Jun 26 '22

You say that as the last poster gets down voted into oblivion haha

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u/Rush2201 Millennial Conservative Jun 26 '22

-15 isn't that far down. There are many more on this sub than that.

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u/fillmorecounty Jun 26 '22

Yep. No matter if you're a conservative or progressive, I think we should all be able to agree that the government shouldn't be so powerful that it can decide what medical procedures you can have. It's even more scary because the politicians making laws often don't understand the topics they're making laws about. In my state, they've made attempts to not allow abortion for ectopic pregnancies based on the claim that they can be "reimplanted" into the correct spot. This is not possible and there is a serious risk that it can rupture your fallopian tubes which can be life threatening. The fetus has a 0% survival rate. That's what really scares me. We're setting a precedent for non medical professionals to make medical decisions for others, despite opposition from actual doctors. It's bad enough that that choice is being taken away from the individual and given to the government, but the fact that they don't even have the knowledge to make educated decisions makes it so much scarier. I'd prefer it if my health care stayed between me and my doctor, not my state government.

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u/Spinnak3r Retrograde Catholic Jun 26 '22

This sketch is freakin awesome

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u/CaptainDakkarNemo Conservative Jun 26 '22

I wish I had more upvotes to give this brilliant piece.

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u/ytg17 Jun 26 '22

Cool. Thats our own decision to make.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Then you agree that governments shouldn't pay for abortions then, right?

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u/archetype776 Jun 26 '22

And it still is your decision.

You get to decide if you want sex along multiple methods of contraceptives.

The only decision you are unable to make is killing a child.

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u/KnowledgeAndFaith Imago Dei Conservative Jun 26 '22

Indeed. Now it’s our decision to jail some people in some states, and hopefully all states soon.

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u/KnowledgeAndFaith Imago Dei Conservative Jun 26 '22

We jail people who try to kill innocent humans. This isn’t new and unless you are a psychopath I know you support doing so. Finally the law will reflect unborn humanity.

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u/sexualassaultllama Jun 26 '22

So...what's the plan for protecting born human lives i.e. supporting single parents and families in horrible financial situations, orphans or generally just people who are struggling with raising their kids? The country has been horrible at helping those people for a long time, so I'm hoping there's some roadmap to reducing all around misery for those who live from now on

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u/stinftw Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

Pro choice typically doesn’t believe that abortion is murdering a human. I think every single person I know, regardless of their views on abortion, would agree that murdering a human should lead to jail. So you aren’t gonna win the argument by trying to guilt them over it.. just saying. That’s the root of the issue I don’t think a lot of people fully understand.

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u/AltruismIsnt Jun 26 '22

You want jail a woman if she gets an abortion?! And the man too I assume since they’re aiding and abetting. I think most conservatives would agree that’s a bit much.

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u/Shamboozless Conservative Jun 26 '22

Yes! We do advocate jailing for any doctors performing an illegal abortion that aid and abet the abortion.

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u/cannedshorts Jun 26 '22

I’m sure you also advocate for various forms of family support once the baby’s born as well

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u/Particular-Offer8158 Jun 26 '22

She needs an AR 15 not a sword...

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u/M4nic_M0th California Conservative Jun 26 '22

An AR-15 AND a sword.

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u/M4nic_M0th California Conservative Jun 26 '22

Absolutely love this

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