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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22 edited Apr 14 '22 Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome

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u/kreiffer Jan 14 '22

100%. First thing I thought of when reading this was Gabby. That poor girl deserved so much better and so does OP. Let’s hope this story doesn’t end as tragically as Gabby’s.

Get out of there OP. This guy is not a good guy and nothing he could ever do can make up for that kind of behavior. Stop tricking yourself into thinking he’s anything but a monster.

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u/appleandwatermelonn Jan 14 '22

Also even if you don’t die from the strangulation you can end up with permanent brain damage within a minute or two

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u/billyburgess Jan 14 '22

750% = 8.5 times

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u/BassLB Jan 14 '22

Explain

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u/bksenbonzakura Jan 14 '22

It's 750% MORE likely. If something is 100% more likely, it's already 2x more likely, so 750% is 8.5x.

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u/Mac_094 Trans Man Jan 14 '22

If something is 100% more likely, it is twice as likely but only one time more likely.

When talking about increases, either percentage or number of wholes, "as" includes the original while "more" is only the new additional amount.

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u/BassLB Jan 14 '22

They used more in both terms. You are comparing more and increase. 750%more=7.5x more, but 750% more does not equal 7.5x increase.

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u/bksenbonzakura Jan 14 '22

You're right. This is probably why "times more likely" is discouraged when teaching statistics, because in the example I used 100% more likely would be equal to 1x more likely, which is confusing and incorrect.

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u/BassLB Jan 14 '22

Glad we sorted it out. Now I can justify hours of scrolling Reddit by saying it was educational

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u/CertainlyNotWorking Jan 14 '22

I may be misremembering, but 100% more likely would be 2x, where as 100% as likely would be 1x. By saying a thing is more likely, you are listing only what exceeds the initial 100%.

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u/bksenbonzakura Jan 14 '22

You're right!

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u/Celiacantalk Jan 14 '22

If the price of something is increased by 100%, that is the same as doubling it.

E.g. starting price is $1.00

Increased by 100% is $2.00

Increased by 750% is $8.50

That’s how I remember it. Basically the initial value is 100% of itself, so it is included in the final value.

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u/BassLB Jan 14 '22

But both precedent and antecedent used the term more, so they are equal. But if it said increased 7.5x that would be incorrect

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u/stabamole Jan 14 '22

A 750% increase is equal to 850% of the original value, because you start at 100% and add the increase

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u/BassLB Jan 14 '22

They used more in both terms. So 750% more equals 7.5x more. If they said 750% more equals an increase of 7.5x it would be wrong.

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u/stabamole Jan 14 '22

Fair point, that’s a weird use of language though. I’ve never heard someone use a straight ratio like 7.5 times as an increase rather than an absolute reference

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u/BassLB Jan 14 '22

That’s the correct use of language. If you’re comparing terms you need to use the same. Either both use more, or both use increase, otherwise it’s confusing

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u/vodka7tall Jan 14 '22

Start with $100 dollars.

A 50% increase to your money is $150. ($100 x .5 = $50, + the $100 you had originally), so 1.5 times what you started with.

A 100% increase is $200 - 2 times what you started with.
200% increase is 3 times.
300% increase is 4 times.
400% increase is 5 times.
500% increase is 6 times.
600% increase is 7 times.
700% increase is 8 times.

750% increase is 8.5 times.

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u/BassLB Jan 14 '22

Both the precedent and antecedent use the term “more”, that’s why I thought they are equal. 750% more likely is the same as 7.5x more

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u/vodka7tall Jan 14 '22

If you're getting 750% more of something, you're getting 8.5 times what you had to start with, not 8.5 times more. I think the confusion is that we're talking probability here, not quantity. OP should have said 8.5 times AS likely...thus the confusion.

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u/BassLB Jan 14 '22

750% more of something, and getting 7.5x more of something works. The confusion would be if they used “more” and “increased by”, which they didn’t.

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u/puzzlednerd Jan 14 '22

0% increase means the same value you started with, i.e. 100% of original value, i.e. multiply by 1.

10% increase means 110% of what you started with, i.e. multiply by 1.1.

750% increase means 100%+750%=850% of what you started with, i.e. mulitply by 8.5.

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u/BassLB Jan 14 '22

So if they said your chances increase by 750%, that would be 7.5x right? It’s the “more” that makes it confusing

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u/CastellatedRock Jan 14 '22

It's the difference between "increase by" and "increase to" that people get confused with.

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u/puzzlednerd Jan 14 '22

Nope! Saying something increases by x% means multiply by (1+x/100).

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u/BassLB Jan 14 '22

Your odds of it happening increased by 750%, the odds of it happening increased by 7.5x is correct.

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u/792blind Jan 14 '22

I think it depends on the context, like in an investment if you have a 100% increase, you double your initial investment, 200% is triple and so on, I'm not sure this applies in this case. I kind of get what the person who said 750% is 8.5 but I also feel like it doesn't make sense in this case.

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u/billyburgess Jan 14 '22

It would be the same in this context. 95 murder victims. 85 strangle victims 10 were not. 750% more likely to be murdered if your strangled.

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u/bicmedic Jan 14 '22

No, it's not. Seriously lol?

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u/not_a_moogle Jan 14 '22

Percentages are weird. 8.5 would be a 750% increase from the number 1. but it's given no context. You have to have odds of the event happening. so if the odds was 1 in 100, then the new odds would be 8.5 in 100.

The odds could be 1/25 (4/100) and a 750% increase is now (34/100). and 34 = 4 * 8.5 If the odds was 1/33 people (~3%), it would now be ~25% or (8/33)

So. yes if you wanted to find out what 750% of some event happening, you would multiply the initial event as a function of 100%

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u/billyburgess Jan 14 '22

100% is double the original value. 2 is 100% more than 1 or 2 times. 200% of 1 is 3 (3 times) etc...

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u/raptorgrin Jan 14 '22

Does this apply when it’s a sibling, not a partner?