The table didn't stiff anyone.. the boss did. When a customer regardless of age comes in and pays for service they have already paid towards wage.. tipping is making the customer pay twice, the onus is on the establishment to not "stiff"
Except that’s not how it works. The customer is quite literally stiffing the server. You can argue whether or not the tipping system should be used or not, but in the current system the customer is still stiffing the server because that’s where they make their money. Whether or not tipping sucks, it’s still screwing over the servers
Yeah. They could have gotten their food to go if they didn’t want to tip. The gaslighting in this thread is insane. Sure, tipping culture is toxic, but shifting the blame to the employer to relieve the blame on the customer is simply wrong. Some restaurants are massive billionaire corporations…
People like this aren't even about the wages, they just don't want to and throw a Karen like tantrum about it, citing all this shit as justification because they just don't want to/want to pay extra for their meal.
"HUR IT'S NOT MY JOB TO PAY YOU!" reeks of a classist mentality. I bet they look down at their server and see them as less than vs an equal working to make a living, too.
This undertone is mostly what I see when I see reddit get triggered by the topic of tipping. I fully understand the issue of tipping culture and why it can be problematic, but if you read all the arguments of the especially rabid users responding, it's obvious that their stance isn't about better wages/servers being paid a pittance - it's a tantrum because they're outraged they have to even leave a tip because how dare you!! The responses remind me a lot of what we've seen during this pandemic - "wah, I don't want to, so I'm gonna rage like a toddler throwing a tantrum." 🙄
I would be able to take these arguments more seriously if it wasn't so blatantly obvious they're being classist douchebags.
You're literally arguing that people being paid minimum wage should be the ones paying someone else's wage, ontop of the meal they just purchased, rather than the worker's likely multi-million or multi-billion dollar employer.
The poor shouldn't be the ones paying wages to the poor. The rich, who gain their wealth from the poor should be the ones paying the wages of the poor, who provide the work which brings them their profits.
You may think people are being classist, but to be honest, your comment makes you look like a class traitor.
If enough people screw over servers the servers quit for different work. If enough people quit for different work and the restaurant cannot staff workers then conditions of employment change. (We are currently seeing this with other industries now mainly logistics)
Lets all be honest with ourselves though, I’ve known enough restaurant workers, they don’t want the system to change. If you don’t want the system to change don’t whine when it doesn’t go your way.
FYI this isn’t personal for me as I take out not done in. Just pointing out basic cause and effect on a large scale.
Except your missing the part that the law Clearly states if servers don’t make enough in tipped wages by the end of the week The Employer Has To Make Up The Difference To Minimum Wage. The server isn’t “Exploited” because there is law and protections in place to prevent that. If you don’t like the terms of your working conditions you should fight to change them 🤷♂️. I don’t see a whole lot of servers fighting for change because they know this system benefits them and their employer more than it should at the expense of the consumer.
Ahh I miss those days when I was the only one I have to feed and if you buy something you like, it’ll still be there the next day… my weekly grocery shopping trip nets me approximately $400 now…. Weekly and if I buy anything specific I like it’ll be gone before I get home from work next day
How many people is that for (I assume 4)? I was lucky growing up my parents and brother always left stuff for everyone else, friends would come over and be like "did you know there's chocolate bars on the kitchen counter??? Eat them before your brother gets home!!" 😆 Meanwhile they had been sitting there for a week because my extremely considerate family wanted to make sure everyone got one.
6… #7 on the way but too early to determine gender. They’re all under 10 years old so I’m counting my blessings cause they’re still considered cheap to maintain, when they’re teens I’m sure I’ll be panhandling lol, and man do these kids eat fast as hell, they’ll scoff a whole whopper in under 2 mins cause if you leave your burger unattended… toppings will go missing like pickles, onions and tomatoes
Also pasta, chicken and sea food, dairy products up the wazoo too. Not a lot of red meat primarily because none of kids nor wife like red meat, only me which is good cause red meat is an expensive bill if all 7 of us demanded to eat it every day
We do but not constantly, once every 2 months seems to be our frequency and it’s primarily for packaged foods & snacks rather than fresh produce. A Costco or Sam’s Club trip every other month ends up costing in the ball park of $1,000-$1,200 (2-3 shopping carts full)
I went to this place for lunch today. It’s in what many people consider the worst part of San Francisco. Rice plate with pork and veggies and a cup of soup was $20 for takeout.
Ok but budget for a tip next time. The server didn't choose this system.
edit: I like how reddit hates people who don't tip but "budgeting for a tip" TO BENEFIT THE WORKER is worth downvoting. I thought this was antiwork, not antiworker.
Right? If you are broke, why the fuck are you eating at any restaurant? I have co-workers like this. They constantly complain they need more hours because they are broke, yet they go out to eat every fucking day. Yet, these same people will be the first ones to leave if given the chance to go home early.
I get eating out every once in awhile, but if you can't afford it, it should be a rare treat at best.
That's a whole lot of assumptions mate, maybe the client here only eats out once in a while.
Like what, if you're poor you can't even treat yourself to a good meal? Blame the business owner for not paying his employees, he's definitely got enough money to do it.
I wish I had that much grocery budget! I’m currently struggling off the equivalent of 30usd for food per week. Thank goodness my wealthier flatmate always overcooks and gives me the extra.
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I could squeeze a week's worth of groceries out of $77 smh