r/antiwork Jan 14 '22 Helpful 16 Wholesome 10 Silver 5

So sorry, I'm broke so I can only pay you $77 for my food. You were great though.

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u/stadulevich Jan 15 '22

U.S. needs to stop using this dumbass tip system.


u/Jololo9 Jan 15 '22

It’s almost as insulting as not using the metric system


u/DreamedJewel58 Jan 15 '22

We need to fix the economic system first. I’d we destroy tipping all together, many waitresses and waiters would lose like 60% of their income because tips add up a shit ton


u/VicarLudens Jan 15 '22

But the economic system works and has a solution for it: When tipping stops, waitresses and waiters get less income and it is in their interest to quit the job. The result will be, that businesses that use tipping to underpay their employees have to close and need to change their business model in the future. Of course this will cause a big sacrifice for some time but it was the same with shortening the work hours. It's important though, that waitresses and waiters stand together and demand proper financial compensation from their political representatives in the time they search for a new, fair wage paying job. Call it utopian or communist, but it’s actually a social market that already is practiced in other (non socialist/communist) countries.


u/DreamedJewel58 Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

The shorter working hours was achieved through years of lobbying and fighting with the government and businesses for it: that’s a change in the economic system. What you’re talking about is capitalism and the free market, which isn’t exactly working. The issue is that getting rid of something as ingrained as tipping requires a large movement and change. We don’t just wake up one morning and get rid of tipping, we need to make sure people actually want to stop tipping in the first place. It’s a two pronged approach, and I find it funny that I’m being downvoted for explaining how we can actually get rid of tipping culture instead of just blindly saying “we need to”

Also I don’t think you know what communism is if you think that’s somehow related to communism


u/VicarLudens Jan 16 '22

My remark about communism was made for the people who think, that financial aid from the state equals „free handouts“ and a communist system. Of course the question should be, how to change the tipping culture. And my approach is long term over the market, as the US is a capitalistic country. Tipping culture is not a case where there're differences between classes so I doubt a large movement can be formed. I don’t know the numbers but I can imagine the amount of workers that benefit from high tipping earns in urban areas and jobs like bars is too many for a solidary movement. They would have to fight against government, businesses and other workers.

Can you explain me why the free market (I was talking about social market economy btw) doesn’t work?


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