r/antiwork Jan 14 '22 Helpful 16 Wholesome 10 Silver 5

So sorry, I'm broke so I can only pay you $77 for my food. You were great though.

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u/NovaKaizr Jan 15 '22

Tipping used to be considered bribery, and was generally frowned upon. A lot of servers even refused to accept tips for that reason. Can't we go back to that and just pay servers a decent wage? It is the duty of the employer to ensure the employees are paid a decent wage, and any workplace that can't do that should not be in business. Unionize! They can replace some of us but they can't replace us all, so if we stick together then the power is in our hands

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u/chaoseincarnate Jan 15 '22

They don't want to replace the system though because in actuality servers tend to make a ton of money when they're good but they like to throw a fit if someone doesn't pay them well as if they're not actively supporting a system that screws them. Seriously I quit tipping jobs because I didn't make any, but every single person I've met that works them LOVES them souly because of the money and will suck the systems dick if you say it's bad and should be replaced but will simultaneously will bitch up a storm and shit talk an entire table in the back if their tip sucks. How about you just work a job that doesn't fucking tip then, oh wait you don't want to.

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u/cocococlash Jan 15 '22

Yes, this is where it's divided. The people from tales from a server are so pro tip, because SOME of them make great money. Seems like many of the others just get screwed.

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u/Aegi Jan 15 '22

In the US?

Source?

I never studied a whole lot of history, but I never remember learning about this in my AP US history at the very least..

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u/NovaKaizr Jan 15 '22

It was something I heard a long time ago so I don't remember quite where I heard it, but this article talks a bit about it here

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u/NovaKaizr Jan 15 '22

From around that until the early 1900s, at least according to this

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u/the-banditYT62 Jan 15 '22

But why should people be made to fork out extra money so the restraunt can save some money and not have to pay staff properly

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u/ThatsJaicist Jan 15 '22

They’re not going to pay the staff anyway. I’d rather at least help our the working class than join in with the restaurant owners in fucking them over. A lot of y’all don’t know the shitty illegal shit that happens in restaurants that we have to deal with and use this as a way to justify not tipping. It’s messed up.

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u/RSmeep13 Jan 15 '22

If a union pushed for less money that would be a pretty foolish move...

Why not push for the money you already make, but as a proper wage? The money customers are already spending on tips would go into the price instead, so it wouldn't even require any meaningful concessions from on high. Consistency is a positive, isn't it?

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u/ThatsJaicist Jan 15 '22

I’ve worked at unionized restaurants before and with unions at fast food restaurants and you’re not gonna get restaurant to pay $50 an hour. Unions know this and aren’t going to push for it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22 edited Feb 12 '22

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u/ThatsJaicist Jan 15 '22

What I’m saying is the federal minimum wage needs to be raised but not tipping service workers does not help them. While I was working as a server I was also an organizer for a group that worked with unions at fast food restaurants and organized marches and protests to raise minimum wage. I think a lot of people here talk big but how many of y’all are in the street doing something about it?

Also I’ve been in this industry for quite a while, the numbers I used have been pretty consistent in all the places I’ve worked and I’m a big job hopper. I’m not speaking on a single place or a few workers.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

A “decent wage” is gonna be a lot less than what I make with tips lmfao. I make an excellent wage. I don’t want a decent one.

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u/JNCressey Jan 15 '22

Why should broke people be expected to pay charity to people making "excellent wage" then?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

1) if that’s how you feel just say that, don’t act like it’s for my own good. 2) if you’re poor and can’t afford to eat out thats on you.

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u/JNCressey Jan 15 '22

They could afford to pay exactly what was billed.

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u/NovaKaizr Jan 15 '22

Then demand that to be your wage regardless of tips. If you want to be paid x amount you should push for that, but you should pressure your employer, not the customers

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Then just say that you’re broke and can’t afford to eat out and move on. Don’t put on this holier than thou act and pretend it’s for us. I make 50$ an hour on weekends no restaurant could ever possibly make that. A “decent” wage will never compare to that. Just admit you don’t want to pay for it, don’t act like it’s for us.

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u/NovaKaizr Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

I don't live in the US, I live in a country where tipping is considered purely extra, so I don't engage with this conversation for my own selfishness. The whole tipping culture is a scam made by business owners to guilt their customers into paying their wages, and you choose to defend that system because you personally benefit. Who is the selfish one here?

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u/cocococlash Jan 15 '22

If a restaurant paid you 20% of sales, you could still make that. But the restaurant should do it, not the customer.