I think most people commenting that way have been raised to believe this type of tipping culture is normal. Traveling to the States from a foreign country had me shocked. This is NOT normal. This is ABNORMAL and not typical of tipping experiences elsewhere in the world. We shouldn't shame other people struggling just because corporations are greedy, rich assholes. Make no mistake - corporations are doing this because they can. Not because they have to. They've convinced people that it's acceptable and "the only way" they can operate.
So much wrong with your statement. You can choose not to participate in it. You can choose to fight back against unfair labor practices. Saying, "we have to continue participating in this bullshit" isn't doing or changing anything. All that accomplishes is keeping things exactly where they are now. Wage theft + customer shaming = exactly what you've been conditioned to do.
You need to re-read what I wrote and leave your anger at the door. They WANT us to fight amongst ourselves. They are counting on it, because that ensures they won't be held accountable. Stop shaming customers and start shaming corporations. How quickly would tipping culture change if masses of people walked off the job and masses of people refused to eat out during the strike? There's more of us then there are of them.
I don't know why you asked me to read this as if this somehow excuses screwing over your waiter. Again, tipping WOULD change if people walked off the job. But you've got to have a savior complex if you think that you're somehow "helping" the staff by making it harder for them to not pay rent. Not tipping your worker only hurts them, not the business itself. The bosses don't give a shit if someone decides not to tip, but the waiter definitely will feel its impact
I called you out for your "don't eat out if you don't tip' remark and you got big mad about it. You wanna point fingers at people in lower income brackets instead of multimillion dollar corporations, that's fine. That's your prerogative. It sure as hell isn't mine. Your tipping culture is completely disgusting and literally only exists because of corporate conditioning in your society. Don't just leave wait staff dangling in the abyss - help them challenge and change things!
You seem to think that not tipping will change things, that couldn’t be further from the truth. Short-changing wait staff isn’t “organizing against the ruling class”.
You started this fight, this post was for waitstaff to vent about short-tips, you’re the one telling them that they are wrong for believing they deserve a living wage.
Where, in any of my posts, did I claim that not tipping was the answer to change? Shaming people who can't or won't tip is definitely not the answer to change. Fighting for living wages IS. Venting is great, change is better.
I would suggest they start by educating themselves about the power of labour unions, on the job walkoffs, and general calls to action by strike leaders. Belonging to this reddit sub is a great start in the right direction.
Belonging to this sub won’t do much, we can’t even name companies without violating Reddit policy.
It’s literally just a platform for people to learn the basics, and that doesn’t happen when people argue in circles about what is and isn’t okay to complain about when you can’t afford to survive.
You're right - it isn't OK. None of this is OK. I hope you see positive changes in your lifetime. I would especially encourage everyone reading this sub to continue reading, organizing, and talking to other people. Change spreads when people share new ideas. So many people from other countries have done just that on this thread. Some people are just beginning to see that wage theft is a thing, and it isn't the norm across the world.
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u/Hoopduck Jan 15 '22
I think most people commenting that way have been raised to believe this type of tipping culture is normal. Traveling to the States from a foreign country had me shocked. This is NOT normal. This is ABNORMAL and not typical of tipping experiences elsewhere in the world. We shouldn't shame other people struggling just because corporations are greedy, rich assholes. Make no mistake - corporations are doing this because they can. Not because they have to. They've convinced people that it's acceptable and "the only way" they can operate.