r/antiwork Jan 14 '22 Silver 5 Helpful 16 Wholesome 10

So sorry, I'm broke so I can only pay you $77 for my food. You were great though.

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u/Shruikathemonk Jan 14 '22 Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome Starry

American tipping culture is a cancer.

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u/nbbiking Jan 15 '22 Helpful

It pits the working class against each other, making a worker responsible for another worker’s living, while the management gets to keep the difference.

One must be a special kind of stupid to find oneself in this sub and support tipping. It’s so fucking obvious

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u/drytiger Jan 15 '22

I would bet you that there are lots of people on this sub who support tipping, and the vast majority of them depend on tips.

The vast majority of people I know who are dependent on tips believe they are entitled to them.

I agree with you that tipping is a fucked up norm, but you will never reason people out of their short-term self interest.

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u/bashup2016 Jan 15 '22

You’re right that there are plenty of people here that depend on tips. There’s nothing wrong with being awesome at your job. It doesn’t mean we agree with it. I’ve been personally threatened for floating the idea of unionization in the restaurant industry.

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u/ShirtStainedBird Jan 15 '22

What like asking politicians to approve a huge pay cut in the form of no more stock trading?

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u/RavenWolfPS2 Jan 15 '22

The vast majority of people I know who are dependent on tips believe they are entitled to them.

r/doordash_drivers anyone?

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u/nbbiking Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

Yeah I remembered the demographic of this sub after my comment.

But even then, expecting for tipping to stay as the norm is hypocritical.

  1. This post is publicly shaming a customer who didn’t pay a tip, which clearly then implies that the op and those in support expect everyone to tip.

  2. My understanding was that this sub was meant to be a community of working people interested in engaging in some sort of discussion or mass mobilization relating to workers rights issues and empowerment of the working class.

  3. Then, r/antiwork participants at the receiving end of tips (probably the majority of the people here) supporting OP and criticizing other working class people who earn more than them, for not tipping waiters (them), is nothing but hypocrisy. It’s literally, “we’re both working class, but because you earn more than me, you’re my enemy if you refuse to tip”. People are drawing a line between themselves and anyone who earns more than them. That’s 100% against the spirit of this sub. It’s working class vs the super rich, not the lower class vs lower middle or middle or upper middle class. “You must tip even though by doing so you’ll be helping sustaining this unethical and exploitative system, because it’ll benefit me too in the short run”. You can’t have it both ways.

Tipping is fine. But r/antiwork sub expecting everyone to tip and shaming those who don’t is hypocrisy.

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u/strawberry_vegan Jan 15 '22

What you don’t seem to be understanding is that a lot of people in support of OP, likely a large majority, do not support tipping as a concept. It’s important to acknowledge that while tipping should be abolished, it is very likely that OP lost money serving this person. Tipouts are common, and are based on a percentage of sales. It’s not like someone not tipping means the server doesn’t get extra money on top of their measly wages, it means that the server has to take money out of what they’ve already made to pay out the other staff.

It’s incredibly messed up and needs to end, but while we are fighting to end it, the absolute least we can do is ensure that someone isn’t losing money by serving us.

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u/drytiger Jan 15 '22

Me fail english? That's unpossible