r/antiwork Jan 14 '22 Helpful 16 Wholesome 10 Silver 5

So sorry, I'm broke so I can only pay you $77 for my food. You were great though.

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u/Anxious-Sir-1361 Jan 15 '22

I'm Canadian; the tipping culture is similar. What bothers me is what I call the “good-looking girl” subsidy. These are waiting jobs at chic spots where the waitresses bring in 6 figure tips per year (before they become real estate agents), more or less for being hot. I'd rather the tips are for those that need them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Friend of mine worked a bar in Montreal, compared her job to stripping with just some more clothes on.

The obvious downside I'll leave to your imagination.

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u/Anxious-Sir-1361 Jan 15 '22

I had an Australian GF years back, and she came and visited me in Edmonton. In Australia, they pay servers a solid wage, and there is no tipping. She was appalled by the tipping culture. She brought up the whole prostituting themselves argument. Part of that was her seeing some of my guy friends doing the honoured douchy married guy tradition of flirting with the waitress and her flirty right back (for tips.) Sometimes it takes the eyes of a foreigner to really see how weird and appalling a custom is.

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u/Tel-aran-rhiod Jan 15 '22

I really wish people on this sub would stop using the word prostitute in a derogatory way. Sex work is work, show some solidarity

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u/kyliequokka Jan 15 '22

Except for when it's thinly veiled sex slavery. Which it mostly is.

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u/Tel-aran-rhiod Jan 15 '22

Where are all you cottage experts on the sex work industry coming from? Have you worked in the sex industry? How many sex workers do you personally know? Sex slavery is a real thing that exists, and in some places is a lot more prevalent, but it's far, far away from being the majority or the norm in the industry

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u/Anxious-Sir-1361 Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

Thanks for your feedback, I agree with you. That was how my GF at that time, 2010 said it.

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u/Tel-aran-rhiod Jan 15 '22

Fwiw, if you're relaying something problematic like that, that somebody else said, it's a good idea to preface it by saying that the language is problematic, otherwise it can just serve to further normalise shitty attitudes

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u/Tel-aran-rhiod Jan 15 '22

It's not the same, lawyers are not working class, nor are they broadly oppressed and persecuted. Punching up vs punching down

Also nobody uses the word "lawyer" as a slur, and the widely shared distaste many have for lawyers is not steeped in internalised misogyny and slut-shaming

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u/vurjin_oce Jan 15 '22

No such thing as punching up or down. It's just punching. Also why can't we use the word prostitute as a derogatory word, even sex workers use it as a derogatory word and try to say they are 'adult entertainers', 'adult content creators', 'Escorts' and so on.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

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u/Tel-aran-rhiod Jan 15 '22

lol that's not what oppression and persecution means, like at all. it sounds like you just hate sex workers and don't understand social stratification

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u/vanticus Jan 15 '22

For someone in r/AntiWork, that’s some strong pro-work and anti-worker as sentiment

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u/cookiemonstah87 Jan 15 '22

Are telemarketers routinely attacked or even killed by the people paying them? Are crimes against them treated less seriously by police because of their line of work? Is it illegal in most states for them to do their jobs? I could go on, but it really isn't even remotely the same thing.