r/antiwork Jan 14 '22 Silver 5 Helpful 16 Wholesome 10

So sorry, I'm broke so I can only pay you $77 for my food. You were great though.

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u/RayFinkle1984 Jan 15 '22

Subsidized wages. Kind of like how many of Walmart’s employees collect food stamps or use Medicaid. We subsidize their shit wages with our taxes. WE foot the bill yet again.

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u/aerowtf Jan 15 '22

trickle up economics

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u/CappyBlue Jan 15 '22

I’d rather pay their employees the old fashioned way- through slightly higher prices, while they receive a fair wage, and don’t have to go through the degradation of tipped work, or the demoralization and stigma that go along with applying for social services. People deserve to live with dignity.

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u/carlcapo77 Jan 15 '22

That’s ok, because if retail paid living wages, retailers would just raise prices, and you foot the bill again.

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u/DouglerK Jan 15 '22

Welp working at minimum wage that just means Im paying the same relative amount. So I'm still footing the same percentage of the bill at minimum wage. Those who foot the bill would be those who don't wee wage increases while seeing price increases. Ideally this would mean the wealthiest individuals foot or that the bill could just even be footed by the company. You honestly think Wal-Mart operates on such thin margins that raising the pay of the average worker would threaten the profitability of the company?

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u/carlcapo77 Jan 17 '22

You do realize a corporations only function is to generate profit? Walmart would definitely increase prices to offset losses from being forced either thru competition, or government regulation to increase wages.

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u/DouglerK Jan 17 '22

I do realize that. Did you think I didn't?

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u/ADenver-dude Jan 15 '22

That’s a bit bullshit- Walmart wages index to inflation hasn’t changed. Just more people looking to Walmart to support family

Can’t see it as Walmarts fault there are more non skilled people

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u/DouglerK Jan 15 '22

Well if Wal-Mart requires X number of people to operate and requires certain skills or not to operate then they need to pay each of those X people a living wage regardless. Its not the workers fault that jobs require less and less skill while still requiring a human being to do them. If a monkey could be trained to do it it doesn't matter. If you need a human being to do X work then you pay them a livable wage or find another way to get X done 🤷‍♂️

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u/ADenver-dude Jan 15 '22

No not really

Wage is a reflection of supply of labor and their ability to find other more higher paying jobs

Personally I’m not paying an extra quarter for a banana based on your need.

It’s based on your ability and willingness to work vs others

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u/DouglerK Jan 15 '22

You wouldn't pay a quarter more for a banana knowing that that made sure others were being treated fairly. I just wish there was a kind of connected group that could identify assholes like you. Then when you come into our stores and use our services with such contempt for us as people we can know to take that banana, and shove it up your fucking ass.

You are simply refusing to pay the equitable cost of what something is worth period. You are not entitled to get discount bananas at the expense of others well-being. The price of a banana is the price of a banana. If you don't like the price of the banana if/when it goes up then guess what? That means you can't afford bananas anymore. Sucks to be you eh? If it costs X for a Banana to be produced and you refuse to pay it then either

A) You don't get bananas anymore B) You think Bananas should be produced in a way that is exploititive to meet your expectations of the price.

Again if X job needs a human to do it then X job deserves a living wage. If you can't afford that, find another way to get X done, do it yourself, or you don't get X. It's that simple.

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u/ADenver-dude Jan 16 '22

if employee is working there of their free will in the United States (with its rules on occupational safety) than they are treated fairly. I have no interest nor desire nor ability to decide what is fair for an individual. Only they can - by accepting the job.

Your wage has nothing to do with need or deserve - that’s your mistake.

It’s your ability and your competition

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u/DouglerK Jan 16 '22

Its not free will when not working there would result homlessness.

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u/ADenver-dude Jan 16 '22

Sure it is

Walmart isn’t the only employer. Hell they aren’t the only grocery store.

The fact you need a home or don’t doesn’t impact your value to an employer.

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u/DouglerK Jan 16 '22

It sure isn't when one is under the constant threat of losing access to basic needs.

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u/ADenver-dude Jan 16 '22

The need of the individual looking for employment is irrelevant to the employer

Nor is it to me as the consumer

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u/DouglerK Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

So if you won't pay X for a Banana like I said, you don't get the Banana or find another way to obtain that banana than expecting other human beings to do the work for you. And people like you call US lazy and unskilled. Go fuck yourself.

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u/ADenver-dude Jan 15 '22

I am not aware of Walmart having an issue finding employees

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u/DouglerK Jan 15 '22

And the point of that statement is?

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u/ADenver-dude Jan 16 '22

They can get the banana for a low price so power to them

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u/DouglerK Jan 16 '22

You can get a banana for a low price because Wal-Mart pays employees crap wages for their produce department. Wal-Mart gets a banana at whatever price they get a banana at. Then they also have to pay for labor to recieve and proccess that banana. They then charge some amount more than the base cost plus the cost of labor. You expect the banana at a cheaper price by expecting Wal-Mart to pay their employees sub-standard wages.