r/antiwork Jan 14 '22 Silver 5 Helpful 16 Wholesome 10

So sorry, I'm broke so I can only pay you $77 for my food. You were great though.

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u/lawless636 Jan 15 '22 Gold Take My Energy

If cooks made more I would cook. Having to deal with the customers is honestly the worst part of the fucking job so you’re gonna have to pay me money to deal with you. Honestly I’d rather wash dishes for 20 bucks an hour then deal with the fucking customers. It is a soul sucking job.

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u/firesoups Jan 15 '22

The customers are WHY I cook. I like working in restaurants, every aspect. It’s fun. I’ve worked every position in front and back of house. After almost 20 years, I stay in the kitchen. Customers are exhausting.

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u/Gildian Jan 15 '22

Worked for McDonald's for 5ish years so not quite the same as a nicer restaurant cook per se but God damn shifts working the counter were pure hell most days. I basically begged to be put on grill or assembly

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u/shitdesk Jan 16 '22

I agree I’ve worked both dishes and host for a restaurant and only left because they refused to give me a raise and yelled at me when I stopped doing all the extra shit including taking the food out for the waiters and waitresses that couldn’t do it themselves because they were arguing with customers (the one that mainly did it got fired mid shift and I was told not asked to learn and do it during a Friday dinner rush thankfully it’s a small town so I knew everyone and they were forgiving but I only got the tips that other the waiters and waitresses shared with me because I didn’t get any)

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u/lmp0stor Jan 15 '22

"Let me explain something to you, Dave. There are two kinds of angry people in this world: explosive and implosive. Explosive is the kind of individual you see screaming at the cashier for not taking their coupons. Implosive is the cashier who remains quiet day after day and finally SHOOTS everyone in the store. You're the cashier."

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u/JediWarrior79 Jan 15 '22

LOVE that movie!!!

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u/hrnigntmare Jan 15 '22

When I waited tables I made it a point to get trained in back and work the line once a week just so I wouldn’t forget how bad it is. I used to get so pissed at the cooks before I actually worked the line and afterwards that stopped immediately.

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u/Jankensolvesall5512 Jan 15 '22

Last place I cooked they had us do the dishes as well and they capped us at $12/hr. I’m pretty sure everyone would wash dishes for $20/hr.

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u/lawless636 Jan 15 '22

It depends on where you live

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u/BorderlineBarbieUwU Jan 15 '22

at least in the dish pit at some corporate places you'll be allowed to have a music player to help you lessen the fucking monotony of the dish pit

source: former dish dog

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u/Mission-Run-7474 Jan 15 '22

I dont know why uoure being downvoted. What fancy ass restaurant is paying dishwashers 20 an hour?

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u/firesoups Jan 15 '22

Our cooks and dishwashers make the same $20 an hour. Owner says he’s “trying to change the industry from the inside,” but that only applies to our slightly above average wages for the area. We still don’t have PTO, insurance, or any other benefits.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Didn’t you read the fucking cook, the reason a fucking restaurant exists and what makes it breaks it gets paid 14 an hour? Why the fuck would they pay you 20 for washing dishes?

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u/Jrjosh2 Jan 15 '22

I make close to 20 after starting as a dishwasher in the kitchen less than year ago. Our dishwashers start at 16 here with no experience. Wages have been driven up at the places willing to pay out

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u/firesoups Jan 15 '22

What does that even mean

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u/P47r1ck- Jan 15 '22

I’m sure he moved up to line cook or just stayed a dishwasher but makes more money now

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u/Jrjosh2 Jan 15 '22

I meant I went from dishwashing, to being a prep cook and I am now a line cook.

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u/threeleggedgirl Jan 15 '22

In the rare instance that a restaurant actually takes care of their staff, it's not unheard of for BOH to make $20+/hr and that includes the dishwasher.

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u/dazedconfusedev Jan 15 '22

our dishwashers make $20/h, and are actually the highest paid hourly BOH staff. Obviously chefs make more, but they’re all salaried. And since FOH all get tipped minimum, the company pays dishwashers more than any other hourly employee.

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u/Dull_Entrepreneur_43 Jan 15 '22

The place I waitressed at was owned by a old Asian lady who had the place for like 30 years. She kept the same old Thai cook, head Chinese chef, & dishwasher for 30 years Bc she paid those 3 up the ass. The Thai lady wanted to retire but my boss offered even more money to stay. People that care about their workers and want them to stay will make it work

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u/dazedconfusedev Jan 15 '22

I am too tired but I actually do not understand what you’re saying. Servers and Hosts aren’t back of house. All of the people making your food are. The guy pushing out 30 filets an hour at $40 each makes like $18. The only people in BOH that make more than dishwashers are the managers, aka the ones that rarely actually cook. And for FOH we have runners, bussers, bartenders, baristas, porters, and bar backs.

It’s a nicer (but not fine dining) restaurant in a nice part of town, but COL is pretty low once you get like 10-15 mins from the restaurant.

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u/dazedconfusedev Jan 15 '22

I get what you’re saying now. I think there is a misunderstanding between us in what “chef” means. At this restaurant, and all the others i’ve worked at actually, “chef” is a title only for BOH managers. It’s the general term for the Executive Chef, Assistant Executive Chefs, and Sous Chefs. Everyone else in the kitchen is a line cook, prep cook, or pastry chef (except that pastry chefs are just line cooks who work pastry, they’re still paid a shitty hourly wage). I’d guess our entire BOH is around 50 employees, 5 of which are salaried.

I think at nicer restaurants their “line cooks” are given the chef title and paid more, but as far as I know most of them are still hourly.

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u/lawless636 Jan 15 '22

You don’t live where I live bro

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u/Geoarbitrage Jan 16 '22

$20 bucks an hour? Where do you live Santa Barbara? Montecito?

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u/eth-slum-lord Jan 15 '22

Whats there to deal with, you just take the order and bring the food then fuck off , unless you are in a 3 star restaraurant i dont expect the waitress to be doing anything else

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u/AssistanceExact Jan 15 '22

You’ve clearly never worked in customer service or the food industry before

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u/eth-slum-lord Jan 15 '22

Ive eaten out every meal in the last 10 years. Literally my dialogue with every waiter is , i want this this that, thanks. Okay heres the credit card thanks . Bye

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u/firesoups Jan 15 '22

Do you know what sub you’re in? Why are you shitting on another worker?

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u/MoneyBear1733 Jan 15 '22

The nature of most jobs is that your boss pays you to deal with the people. The customer has no responsibility to pay you to be nice to them. A job is a job.

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u/lawless636 Jan 15 '22

Well as of right now the way serving is set up yes you’re paying us to be nice to you. If you don’t like it cook your own fucking food.

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u/MoneyBear1733 Jan 15 '22

You're not even the one cooking the food, and the one who is, isn't getting the tip. You just sound entitled.

Tip culture is not paying people to be nice to you. It's a guilt trip transaction that is equivalent to church tithes at this point.

Your boss should be the one paying you to be nice to people, and I sleep perfectly fine knowing that it's not my responsibility to pay your wage.

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u/lawless636 Jan 16 '22

Actually it’s about my cooks 18% so you can eat a dick. And they get paid far more than me in hourly. Guess who gets blamed if the cook fucks up the food? It’s me. guess who has to deal with pissed off customers it’s me. Just tell me you have an actually worked in the service industry because it’s pretty fucking clear you don’t get how this works at all and you don’t get how stressful and soul sucking dealing with people like you is. You sound like the one that is entitled because you have no fucking idea what we actually do or what we deal with. Just remember Karma is a bitch.

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u/MoneyBear1733 Jan 16 '22

I'm speaking from a place of having worked on kitchen lines for nearly a decade out of highschool.

I'd be willing to bet my left nut that you make considerably more than every line cook you work with, yet still bitch and moan that they get paid just above minimum wage.

Servers who complain about people not tipping them are either dead ends working in a bad restaurant, in a small city. Or just wildly entitled people. career servers are smart enough to move to where there's better work.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '22

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u/MoneyBear1733 Jan 16 '22

Servers are one of the biggest active proponents for tip culture. There is a split in the industry between people who live in locations with a thriving service industry and those who don't. Unfortunately those who benefit from the culture are a much more powerful voice in the discussion.

Those who don't obviously want higher baseline wages in lieu of tips, which I agree with. This is what the entire workforce and this sub is working towards.

Those who do live in thriving areas and benefit off of the culture are obviously against this. From a stance that is essentially the equivalent to that of the ultra rich. "I don't want to give up all this extra money i'm making"

This is in no way contradictory.

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u/MoneyBear1733 Jan 16 '22

Yeah, it's a fucked mess where one half of the industry is actively trying to fuck over the other half.

This is what I mean when I say servers want to have cake and eat it too.

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u/lawless636 Jan 16 '22

My sister is special-needs I will use actual terms that have definitions that relate to what I’m speaking of. And I’m speaking of people who have their head up their fucking ass and have no idea what’s going on around them. People come up and ask for hamburgers don’t ask for cheese and then expect to get a cheeseburger. People who come up and ask to give them tacos when we have 10 different types of tacos and they have not specified which one they want. People who come up and ask how much are the tacos while staring at the menu where the prices are and I’m like well it fucking depends there’s 10 different kinds up there and they’re all different prices and you’re looking right at them. People who can’t seem to figure out how to get the water out of the water spigot which happens all day, people who don’t take their order numbers that I give them and tell them five times before they walk off to take and push it towards them and they still walk off with out them and then wonder why they didn’t get their food. People literally standing in front of the water station asking if they can get water. I stand by the word I used.