r/antiwork Jan 14 '22 Silver 5 Helpful 16 Wholesome 10

So sorry, I'm broke so I can only pay you $77 for my food. You were great though.

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u/tr0pheus Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

Yeah until you make money.

Don't get me wrong. I love the possibilities we have here, but we pay too much in taxes and fees. The government has become to big and should go back to providing the basics needed for a good life (free healthcare, education and financial help if you lose your job)

I had a job once that after taxes gave me $80 more a month than if i collected welfare. That makes some people speculate in getting a disability check and then working some shady job that pays cash. If you do like that, you can work 20 hours a week and make more money than most people working fully legal.

We have made it to easy for people to just stay at home and don't contribute

Edit : It's funny, Everytime i explain that Denmark is really not perfect (even though I have lived here for 34 years) i get bombarded with downvotes....

I get that Scandinavia might seem like a perfect place for Americans , but it isn't.

It's better and more just than America, but far from perfect. You should seek a political system that lies somewhere in between where you are and where Europe is.

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u/xTrump_rapes_kidsx Jan 15 '22

If employers aren't willing to pay significantly more than welfare, they probably don't deserve to exist

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u/tr0pheus Jan 15 '22

Well, Ikea is one of them and they certainly do exist. Deserve is not really something that is useful as a way of indicator of anything. Either you turn a profit and live on or you don't and die off.

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u/xTrump_rapes_kidsx Jan 15 '22

"if a business cannot turn a profit without engaging in worker exploitation (paying less than welfare, for example), that business is not one that should exist"

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u/tr0pheus Jan 15 '22

Do you want to force them shut or what would be your solution?

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u/xTrump_rapes_kidsx Jan 15 '22

Absolutely. Force closure of exploitative business

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u/tr0pheus Jan 15 '22

Oh that's great. How will you then get tax revenue for this utopia? How will extensive government and security come when you want to force shut businesses?

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u/xTrump_rapes_kidsx Jan 15 '22

Ah I see you believe that it is impossible to turn a profit without exploiting workers. So you must be a capitalist guilty of these same crimes against humanity yes?

No? Then you're just simping for capitalists without being one

We aren't forcing businesses to shut down, we are forcing wage slavery out of existence

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u/tr0pheus Jan 15 '22

The device you are commenting from was made from said capitalist. Throw it out. REGULATED capitalism works. UNREGULATED makes USA-like oligarchies. OVER REGULATED makes for societies where no one wants to make a difference. Why become a doctor, when you can sweep a street and make the same.

Denmark is REGULATED , but on the way to OVER REGULATED.

It's really not rocket science. Don't go full communism because full capitalism didn't work. Seek the middle ground, don't be so extreme

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u/RaoulDuke511 Jan 15 '22

You’re not forcing anything. The market is reacting to market forces. You’re griping into your phone and calling it a “movement”

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u/RaoulDuke511 Jan 15 '22

And I’m sure this person has an absolutely universal and completely applicable threshold for what they consider exploiting an employee.

Marx by numbers has entered the chat