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Canada to ban handgun imports
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/08/05/canada-handgun-import-ban/663
u/jameskchou 8d ago
What is being done to stop gun smuggling across the border?
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u/FatWreckords 8d ago
Plant more trees to catch drones
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u/TengoMucho 8d ago
The trees have done more to stop gun crime than the Trudeau government.
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u/Mystaes 8d ago
But wait, isn’t the trudeau government is planting 1 billion trees?
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u/xizrtilhh Lest We Forget 8d ago
They'll get right on that as soon as the work on electoral reform is finished.
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u/GreatChampionship138 8d ago
And I believe that's on the list right after making housing affordable and shutting down the money-laundering schemes.
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I think that completely stopping gun smuggling is an unrealistic goal. Instead it would be nice to see the motivation for people to commit crimes be reduced as much as possible and that starts with investing money and effort into poorer communities where gun violence occurs. Restriction on law abiding responsible firearms license holders won’t do anything to reduce gun violence as the vast majority is done by criminals that illegal obtain handguns that would probably already be prohibited under our gun regulations for being short barrelled or hand large capacity magazines. I think things like police reform to have better trained officers, a prison system that focused more on rehabilitation and reintegration, and better social services to insure that poorer Canadians get the same opportunities as everyone else would hugely reduced not only gun violence but overall crime.
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u/Crafty-Ad-9048 7d ago
Stoping gang violence is also a hard goal to achieve. Gang violence gets passed on through generations similar to race and culture conflicts. We have 2000’s babies killing other 2000’s babies over conflicts that started in the 90’s.
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u/HanzG 8d ago
Canadian handgun owner here and you're exactly right. Consider this; how many criminals are arrested with legally imported handguns? And how many are smuggled?
Longest border in the world with massive gaps in security. Catch and release program for armed drug dealers. The fix isn't taking away the guns. Its by eliminating the desire to do harm in the first place.
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u/SafetyChicken7 8d ago
As a handgun gun owner myself, no criminal is going to go through the bureaucracy required to get a handgun.
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What is being done to stop gun smuggling across the border?
Why target that when they go for the low hanging fruit?
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u/TysonGoesOutside Alberta 8d ago
Literally nothing. If it keeps happening they can use it as an excuse for more gun control which is a wedge issue they love to hammer. Most people know little about guns or where crime guns come from so a politician throwing out random bans sounds pretty good to them.
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u/justafoolgettinby
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laughs in indigenous reserves on the border that nobody wants to talk about
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u/SobeysBags 8d ago
Aroostook golf and country club. One giant hole in the border
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u/chewwydraper 8d ago
I get that the Canadian government is too terrified to do anything about these holes in the border, but it shocks me that the American government is cool with it.
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u/Hatsee 8d ago
It's not like we're smuggling guns there or anything.
Why would they care?
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u/chewwydraper 8d ago
They may not care about guns, but the American's certainly care about drugs.
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u/gotdamnn 8d ago
Aren’t most of the drugs coming into Canada? I know we export a lot of weed to the US though.
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u/No-Wonder1139 8d ago
Americans literally smuggle drugs into their own country as a means of funding their own government agencies. I don't think they care.
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u/SobeysBags 8d ago
If they did anything about the golf club, which is in Canada, it would put the course out of business, which would open up a whole new can of worms, and people would claim the govt is anti-business and stomping on the little guy, as the only way to access it is by the American side. It is one of the few place Americans can technically enter Canada with no passport or customs check. I myself went up there (I'm Canadian), and it was so weird just hopping back and forth between countries, play a round of golf in Canada, then go back to your car in the USA. All perfectly legal.
To be fair though as far as "friendly borders' go , the USA/Canada border is super strict and well patrolled, almost to a fault. My father in law in northern Maine was hiking through the back woods and accidentally crossed into Canada, than back into the USA, literally the middle of nowhere. 20 minutes later American border patrol showed up in ATV's asking about his movements and gave him a warning. He was very lucky they didn't take him in. They actually have motion sensors and cameras in the middle of the woods on both sides of the border. The money spent by the US border patrol and CBSA is pretty bananas.
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u/PartyClock 8d ago
Wouldn't matter anyways most of it comes in through Windsor and Niagara Falls via Hell's Angels but the cops tend to leave them alone.
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u/mavric_ac 8d ago
indigenous reserves on the border that nobody wa
Cornwall Island!
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u/Mrkillz4c00kiez Ontario 8d ago
not just guns going through that border lol
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u/Ok-Dragonfruit-1793 British Columbia 8d ago edited 8d ago
You mean like the New York couple, kidnapped and held for ransom after being smuggled into Canada ?
The couple kidnapped from a small town in New York state and smuggled into Quebec last week were held for ransom because drug traffickers in Canada mistakenly believed their grandson still had 50 kilograms of cocaine that were seized in a drug bust a week earlier, according to the FBI.
“This would have placed (the victim’s) cellphone in Snye, Quebec, Canada, an area on the Canadian side of the Akwesasne Mohawk reservation,” wrote Tamara Deming, the FBI agent who prepared the affidavit.
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u/mavric_ac 8d ago
e victim’s) cellphone in Snye, Quebec, Canada, an area on the Canadian side of the Akwesasne Mohawk reservation,” wrote Tamara Deming, the FBI
Damn didn't hear about this, i don't live in the area anymore but the stories i remember from high school where crazy
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u/Mrkillz4c00kiez Ontario 8d ago
Same the amount of times class mates offered me jobs. To help them
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u/Ok-Dragonfruit-1793 British Columbia 8d ago
Not across the reserve, but it shows the profitability.
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u/Mrkillz4c00kiez Ontario 8d ago
This was biking cigarette across the old steel giant seaway bridge. If I remember correctly it was 40 a trip no way in hell was I risking that especially on a bridge that high
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u/hindey19 8d ago
I took my firearms course with a few people from Cornwall Island, and the stuff they openly shared...it's amazing they're not in jail.
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u/justfollowingorders1 8d ago
This.
Nobody wants to open that can of worms. So we just let illegal hand guns flow into our cities.
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u/Incognimoo 8d ago
Yet the reserves have been asking for support to stop it, but have received none.
This is how we know that the federal agenda is vote-driven, not safety.
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u/sleipnir45 8d ago
"The regulatory measure announced Friday allows the government to impose that freeze without waiting for Parliament, which is on a summer break until September, to pass that legislation."
No parliament, no problem ! Just use an OIC
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u/BubahotepLives 8d ago
Trudeau has used more IOCs than any government before. Strange that he once called their use unconstitutional yet he loves to use them.
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He also ran his first election on reforming our election system, then won his second election with near the least amount of votes any of our PMs have won on while all his friends boasted about his “brilliant strategic campaigning”. I have nothing against the liberal party as a whole but I sure am getting tired of watching everyone justify his corruption and hypocrisy with “but he’s doing it for the better good!”
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u/Mystaes 8d ago
Until the liberals or conservatives change the voting process I don’t want to hear from either of them how unfair it is when they lose under our terrible system
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u/Void_Bastard Canada 8d ago
Agreed.
But I do reserve the right to shit on any and all parties who make the promise but do not follow through on it. No matter what colour tie they wear.
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u/Potential-Brain7735 8d ago
What the fuck even is the point of parliament at this point?
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u/Dionysos53 8d ago
Ahhh canada. Where the lack of democracy is applaud by people
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u/TysonGoesOutside Alberta 8d ago
I love the people that support this. I cant wait for the people they hate the most to use these tools to do the thing they fear most.
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u/adaminc Canada 8d ago
These tools have existed and been used in every single government since Canada started. It's how regulations are made, all of them. So guaranteed that anyone older than 18, has seen regulations made that they would hate or fear being made.
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u/bcbuddy 8d ago
Yesterday Mendicino was talking about "cross border gun smuggling"
And today, he announced measures that have no effect on cross border gun smuggling.
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u/lowertechnology 8d ago
As long as it looks like we are doing something, the sheep will continue to graze
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u/cmdrDROC Verified 8d ago
I work in bails and we just granted a bunch of gang members bail who were bringing fentanyl from the US to the Ottawa valley.
They also had loaded handguns with serials removed.
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Canada to ban importing handguns through a legal process. Illegal imports remain unaffected.
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u/enviropsych 8d ago
Funny how being next door neighbors with a country that has 400 million guns tends to lead to guns from that country being illegally smuggled here. Odd. Never would have expected.
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u/Angriestbeaverever 8d ago
This comment right here, says everything about what the government is doing about the “gun problem” in Canada.
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u/jamie1414 8d ago
What else are they going to do? Make them super-illegal? Extra-illegal?
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u/Pandaman922 8d ago
Literally anything but go after legal guns. Every article like this always references an entirely unrelated case of smuggling that we know won’t be fixed with whatever vote buying measure they’re throwing to the media today.
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u/haysoos2 8d ago
Enforcing border crossings even where First Nations straddle the US/Canada border would be a huge start, but politically the Liberals won't even discuss the matter.
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u/ScoobyDone British Columbia 8d ago
Liberals? I can't recall any party tackling this.
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u/SilverwingedOther Québec 8d ago
THIS.
Anyone thinking that there's a political party in Canada that would get involved in overriding native rights...
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u/TerenceOverbaby 8d ago
What are you talking about. The Liberals purchased the Trans Mountain Pipeline in part to navigate its expansion against significant, although not unanimous, Indigenous opposition. The BC NDP supported the RCMP's enforcement of the injunction against the Wet'suwet'en land defenders so Costal Gas Link could proceed with building their pipeline.
Indigenous rights are constantly being challenged and negotiated by political parties.
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u/anotherdumbname82 8d ago
Reducing sentencing for violent gun-crime is essentially making it less illegal. Maybe they could start by not doing that.
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u/otto3210 Ontario 8d ago
Take that, restricted firearms licence owners who have completed CRFSC with extensive background checks and character reference interviews!
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u/Atabyrius
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Even legally owned handguns are not allowed outside the home/range except under very specific circumstances, and even then under trigger lock.
Any gun someone is caught with in their waistband on the street or in a glovebox is already illegal under current laws.
I have an RPAL, and shoot pistol/handguns pretty regularly with a local club. To even have the ability to purchase or shoot pistols in Canada, you need to get a normal PAL, then an RPAL, and maintain an expensive membership to a range that allows pistols (often a normal range with an expensive additional membership on top to shoot pistol).
Restricted firearms (which all pistols in Canada currently are) can only be used and operated at private ranges, are not even allowed to be transported except under very strict conditions (basically to/from your home to a range). To move it anywhere else you need to alert the local police first. They must be locked at all times, all ammunition must be locked up, and you consent for the RCMP to be able to search your residence at any time.
All this to say that Canadians that currently legally buy and shoot handguns for sport already spend thousands of dollars and jump through numerous hoops to enjoy their pastime. No criminal is acquiring guns through this process; it’s honestly easier to acquire them illegally, which is what most criminals do anyways. This is a posturing move by the liberals to appeal to their base, and punishes citizens who already worked hard to stay within the bounds of the law.
This is besides the fact that Trudeau already moved a bunch of firearms from the non-restricted and restricted classes to the prohibited class nearly overnight. This made it so that thousands of weapons can’t be sold or retained legally, so now people are left with weapons that were worth thousands of dollars, that are now illegal paperweights that they can’t move, as Trudeau didn’t equip sufficient funds for a buyback program. What will happen to these guns? They will nearly 100% be retained illegally and most with probably get sold off illegally.
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u/northcrunk 8d ago
What's a hand gun now? $800-$1000 for a legal one. Criminals are paying $3500 for one because they don't want to be traced. Anyone going through the legal process is not a threat at all. They can't even carry their firearms for self-defense.
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u/Patsboy101 8d ago edited 4d ago
Getting either your PAL or your RPAL is a time consuming process that comes with the fact that you are subject to background checks by RCMP 24/7. Adding to that, every weapon that is restricted must be registered with the government. Anybody that hold these licenses are going to be on their best behavior because they don’t want to lose their collection of firearms.
Cracking down on the legal ownership of handguns does nothing to deter criminals from smuggling guns into Canada because criminals do not care about the law. Only law-abiding citizens care because they don’t want to become criminals.
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u/leadfoot71 8d ago
I've been waiting for 7 months to even hear anything back about my PAL+RPAL application. Its an absulutly brutally long wait, still no license, but they've already charged me the fees.
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u/LifeLister902 8d ago
The point of getting your RPAL now is to own the non restricted guns that they will reclassify as restricted
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u/Subculture1000 8d ago
But I lost all those!... Or sold them... Or whatever.
<insert boating accident>
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u/Atabyrius 8d ago
Exactly, lots of boating accidents, cash sales to someone who’s name I forgot, or just lost in the woods firearms will be coming soon.
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u/Benmenyo 8d ago
I completed my RPAL 3 months ago and applied for permit after that. I'll be suing the federal government as I literally just got scammed by it. It' like doing your driver's license course and then making cars illegal to buy before you get one...
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u/Decent-Box5009 8d ago
So I only ask why we are banning handguns? What is the goal? I don’t own a hand gun, I don’t intend to own a hand gun, I have my restricted licence only because I wanted to keep the option open. I am a hunter with only bolt action rifles. But what is the goal of the hand gun ban? I’m pretty sure most crimes being committed in Canada are not happening with registered hand guns or stolen registered hand guns.
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u/wilburyan 7d ago
The goal is to appeal to metropolitan voters who hear about drive by shootings on a regular basis.
"But... Those aren't legal guns"
We know... But most regular folks don't.
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u/TomaszRS 8d ago
What’s the point of parliament if the Government just goes the OIC route whenever they don’t want to be challenged?
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u/Fidget11 Alberta 8d ago
Because they can’t use an OIC for everything, but gun laws here are set up in such a way as to allow them using an OIC to get their way.
Also even if it went to parliament, between the liberals and the NDP/BLOC there would easily be enough votes to do what they are doing with the OIC so it’s irrelevant.
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u/northcrunk 8d ago
Then do it. Going around parliament is undemocratic and authoritarian. I hated it when Harper did it and I'll hate it when Trudeau does it
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u/ExamArtistic6736 7d ago
Legal gun owners love Canada and Canadians. We are hunters and sports shooters. Yes, it’s a bit of a “dangerous hobby” (putting an explosive powder in a metal tube and lighting it) but so is archery, skydiving and BMX.
We are politically and racially diverse and we love it when non shooters show an interest in learning about guns. We have no ill intention towards anyone and as a brown immigrant, some of the most welcoming people I’ve met were white-as-snow boomers at a shooting range (I also saw and got to talk to an First Nations member for the first time as a new Canadian at a gun range). I’ve truly learnt so much about non-gun stuff from gun owners.
I bought a gun because as a kid I thought guns in video games were cool, the same reason why some who loved racing games buys a fast car, or a kid who watches Tony Hawk buys a skateboard.
All this law does is hurt civilians who own handguns legally to shoot for sport. Gun crime will continue to rise but the politicians will claim it to be an outlier “because we banned guns”.
Don’t let politicians fool you into thinking they’re banning guns for the people. They’re doing it so they have something to brag about during election season. Low income neighbourhoods will still see gun violence and profiling. Politicians will continue to ignore those that need rehabilitation. Besides, handguns are the least of our concerns. SO MANY CANADIANS are living paycheque to paycheque due to rising costs.
This is the time and the perfect reason for Canadians to unite, regardless of political affiliation, to get a government that works for us, not the other way around.
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85% of all handgun related crimes in Canada are directed tied to illegally smuggled firearms, meaning this ban will not affect 85% of handgun related crime in Canada.
Tomorrow, when there is yet another shooting in Toronto or Montreal or Vancouver, this ban will not have prevented it, nor the shooting after that, nor the shooting after that.
Justin Trudeau knows this. He was told this by Canadian police chiefs and his own government report YEARS AGO. He doesn't care. Because it's not about making Canadians safer. It's about buying votes. That is all liberal gun policies are ever about.
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u/vARROWHEAD 8d ago
to be clear, the other 15% are NOT traced to Canada. But merely untraceable or simply not traced; given the trend the other 15% are likely smuggled as well.
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u/N2KD 8d ago
Why would not going after illegally smuggled firearms not buy even more votes?
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u/yoda7326 8d ago
Because if they actually solved the problem, they couldn't keep continually campaigning on it and using it as a wedge issue against the cons.
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u/MooseGoose2020 8d ago
Because going after smuggled guns requires time and money; we won't see results until years later. These gun-control measures are a quick and easy "solution". The government wants us to think they're on-the-ball. A few days after a shooting, the Public Safety Minister can announce new measures to help against gun violence. Sadly, these measures are not very effective and people will continue dying until the government does something effective about it.
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u/tibbymat Alberta 8d ago
Not doubting your numbers here at all but can I ask for a source. I would just like to read the data on this for clarity.
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Police chiefs estimate about 14% of the remaining 15% cannot be sourced / tracked, but believe strongly they are USA-sourced.
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u/FSMmike 8d ago
Put people in jail appropriately that commit the crimes. Judges are not doing their job
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u/greendoh 8d ago
Look - those people are the victims. They didn't want to go out and buy the guns, they didn't want to even shoot them - the gun forced it upon them.
Criminals that use guns in crime = poor victims needing our sympathy
Guns = Evil killing machines that force poor criminals to commit heinous acts
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u/mantheman12 8d ago
As if banning something will stop people from doing it. Look at the war on drugs, see how well that turned out? Hmm who would've thought telling a criminal not to commit a crime will not work as anticipated? Even if they put more effort into cracking down on the trade. All that'll do is lower the supply, and raise the demand, thus causing the price to inflate massively. Soon it'll become a high price, high status luxury commodity. Which will make the trade even easier for illegal traders to make money, and even more desirable for impoverished and hungry people to get into the weapons trade.
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u/DistinctMembership49 7d ago
You can just buy one at your local high school for $100. Why bother importing ?
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u/DarrylRu 8d ago
Will do very little to slow down gun crimes in Canada which are mostly all committed with illegal guns. It will likely even increase gun smuggling.
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u/MrRogersAE 8d ago
Explain how it would increase smuggling. Law abiding citizens don’t buy illegal guns. Legal guns almost never make their way to criminals, illegal guns almost exclusively come across the border and aren’t domestically sourced.
Any legal gun owner who who buy an illegal gun is a criminal, and is exactly the type of person that shouldn’t be allowed to own guns at all
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u/SnooChipmunks6697
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Fifty bucks says 2023 is the worst year for handgun violence in Canadian history.
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u/TheMikeDee 8d ago
I'll take you up on that. $50 CAD. Winner will be determined by official numbers from the same official source so that they're comparable. We meet again in January 2024.
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u/CringelordCameron 8d ago
In 2024 $50 might be able to get you a bag of chips!
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u/TomaszRS 8d ago
Is that $50 gonna be adjusted for inflation?
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u/TheMikeDee 8d ago
Good point! It'll be 2024 $50. Cause, like, I didn't sign up for a $2,000 bet. :P
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u/CasualBoi247 8d ago
You really think the dude above has $50?
Probably over-leveraged to shit on his FULLY LOADED F150
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u/TOMapleLaughs Canada 8d ago
"Canada to have massive boost in handgun sales imminently."
-Washington Post
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u/_Connor 8d ago edited 8d ago
Handguns in Canada have been perpetually sold out since the transfer freeze was announced in May. We sold 60,000 handguns in the week following the announcement which is more than we typically sell in an entire year.
Every shipment that gun shops were receiving have been selling out almost instantly for the last 3 months, which is why we now have an import ban. Guess papa Trudeau wasn’t smart enough to see that a pending transfer freeze would increase sales, so now he’s banning imports so there’s no more inventory to sell even before the transfer freeze comes into effect.
I know someone who already has 1 handgun on the way who just bought 2 more this morning after the announcement.
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u/theziess 8d ago
Gun store near me had a gold plated desert eagle for sale for years. It’s was absurdly expensive, like 7 or 8 thousand dollars. The day after the handgun ban was announced it was sold. People spent outrageous amounts of money at the drop of a hat the day that ban was announced.
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u/toxic0n 8d ago
You're right. I bought a revolver after the transfer freeze news. Looks like I'm going shopping again. Thanks, JT.
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u/WhyalwaysSSDD 8d ago edited 8d ago
Canada to ban legal handgun imports. Illegal handguns will still flow freely through the border with no attempt to address that.
Edit: i guess they had to do that since everyhand gun available for purchase at the initial annoucement has been sold along with whatever else has been imported since then. Likely 3x the number of handguns sold in the past couple months as were sold in the past couple years.
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u/DannyBoy6672 7d ago
Won't do a fucking thing to prevent gun violence, gangsters will continue to shoot one another with smuggled guns and honestly who cares
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u/Unfatalx 8d ago
Does this import ban affect the mass number of illegal firearms being smuggled into the country? Or just the highly regulated legal ones that aren't being used in crimes?
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u/Joeyjackhammer 8d ago
Getting sick of laws being passed when parliament isn’t in session, how is thiss allowed to happen in a democratic country?!?
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u/redditsolider Canada 8d ago
Congratulations to the government on implementing a policy that will do absolutely nothing to lower the gun violence.
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u/CringelordCameron 8d ago
This government has passed the point of no return, they no longer care whatsoever about Canada's democratic processes and will use any method possible to implement laws without the scrutiny of parliament. And to all the liberals who think this is a good thing, just remember that if a future conservative government chooses to implement laws without parliamentary approval that you do not support, you willingly allowed your current government to set this precident and normalize the use of OICs. Canada is broken
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u/Mac_Gold 8d ago
It’s amazing to me that some still applaud everything that JT does. I’m not a fan of his, but I’m apolitical and don’t really like any of the candidates from the last two elections. I find JT to be narcissistic and self serving, and either clueless or willfully ignorant to the issues this country faces. And yet out here on the west coast there are still some in my circle of friends and family that will vote for him again if they had the choice, even though they acknowledge some of the things he does make no sense
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u/NotACakeShop 8d ago
I can respect that. In the last 2 years, public trust in both politicians and establishment has dropped dramatically, and your mentality, like mine, is more prevalent than ever. Just look at Ontario's historically low voter turnout as an example. Politicians on both sides of the spectrum are garbage, and the variations in actual politics are miniscule. I think the system worked for a while, but is now showing it's cracks.
The question becomes, how do we resolve this?
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u/AceAxos Lest We Forget 8d ago
These people are so inept it’s insane. It’s actually quite sad to see action that is clearly just to be a better political move than an effective measure. That’s what they’ve always been about
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u/beerwhistle99 8d ago
Fantastic news! So handgun imports will be handled solely by criminal organizations. Perfect!
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u/R-35 8d ago
just some more virtue signaling that won't solve anything....keep punishing legal gun owners, lets see how that works out.
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u/Potential-Brain7735 8d ago
“Canada to bring more business to organized criminals who smuggle hand guns across the border.”
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u/CreepyWindows Ontario 8d ago
Canada announcing absolutely no more legal handguns. Going purely to illegal model.
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u/LittleBear575 7d ago
This subreddit is filled with so many dumb people making dumb throwaway statements.
Man the quality of this subreddit is in the gutter.
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u/_TheRedstoneBlaze_ 7d ago
That sounds like a government that doesnt want to take advantage of you and is working for you... Right?
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u/darkpositive 7d ago
Great. Now all the illegal guns that are causing most of the gun crime anyways are still in the country, but lawful citizens will have nothing to defend themselves with. I love this country.
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u/jawless777 7d ago
Everything turdeau does, helps the criminals and hinders citizens, under the guise of 'we're doing the right thing'... and people just eat this garbage up on the daily.
When are the majority going to realize this?
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u/Arctic_Chilean Canada 8d ago
This government blowing more public funds on dogshit security theatre policies?
Well color me suprised...
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u/Apples_and_Overtones 8d ago
Being a gun owner in Canada is just a constant exercise of "how am I going to get fucked over by the government today?" I swear.
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u/dumbassname45 8d ago
Convert to a criminal… it’s far less restrictive and the laws being passed are to protect the criminals rights to cause the most trouble. Can’t beat them.. joint them
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u/RL203 8d ago
So when is the federal government going to setiously crack down on gun smugglers and criminal gangs?
I know, I know. That's meant to be a sarcastic Rhetorical question because we all know the answer is never because it doesn't fit with Justin's narrative.
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u/SpectreBallistics 8d ago
So when is the federal government going to setiously crack down on gun smugglers and criminal gangs?
Never. Why would they? Their tough on gun owners stance is better politics for them.
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u/SoftCompetitive675 8d ago
This should say JT is banning legal handgun imports but illegal handgun imports will continue on with no interruption. As JT continues to wage his one man war on legal gun owner in with zero being done to stop the criminal use and import of guns. I'm sure he has cornered the gang involved vote.
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u/sunsetsandstardust 8d ago
thanks canadian government, i’m sure that will fix gun crime!
oh wait 85% of shootings in just toronto are from smuggled american guns
the shit this country wastes its focus on 🙄
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u/Saint-Carat 8d ago
2016-2021 gun homicides was ~1,550. They say approx 2/3 are associated with crime so ~500 homicides from legal guns - probably mostly long arms.
2016-2021 Canada had 30,860 opioid related deaths. Throw in associated societal ills from opioids, the costs are staggering in lives and $’s.
Not sure why someone hasn’t asked the justice minister why such focus on the segment we know isn’t an issue over the other. It’s all politics and we foot the bill. Edit - has to hasn’t
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u/itwasntmeitwashim00 8d ago
Well atleast we'll always be able to easily buy illegal, smuggled from the US handguns. Pretty soon that will be gun enthusiasts only option unfortunately
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u/Milesaboveu 8d ago
And now the government won't know about it because all handguns were registered lol
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u/frostedmooseantlers 8d ago
“In May, a Yorkshire terrier named Pepper thwarted an attempt to smuggle 11 handguns across the border from Michigan to Ontario using a six-rotor drone.”
The truly amazing story here is how the CBSA managed to train that terrier to operate a six-rotor drone.