r/dankmemes Jan 17 '22 Silver 2 Helpful 3 Wholesome 3

Bots in chess:💪😎 it's pronounced gif

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u/KeepingDankMemesDank Jan 17 '22

downvote this comment if the meme sucks. upvote it and I'll go away.


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u/DLVVLD Jan 17 '22

Bots in TF2: hold my beer

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u/heavy_metal_soldier Jan 18 '22

The MGAbot trolldier in that JumpAcademy server's market gardening pit: I am God

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u/TheBubster85 ☣️ Jan 18 '22

Welcome to The Fortress 2 . After 9 years in development, hopefully it will have been worth the wait. Thanks, and have fun!

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u/Heshman69 Jan 18 '22

Bots in csgo: amateurs

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u/itsnikopiko OC Memer Jan 18 '22

bots in csgo are ass lol

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u/zEngarden757 Jan 18 '22

this needs to be a meme template

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u/Heshman69 Jan 18 '22

Sometimes they’re ass but sometimes they act like esport players

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u/2ma2sus Jan 18 '22

Ahh...I remember Bot Connor and his insane ace, was expecting it to go pro

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Bot Gabe just one tap me 5 time in my last death match biggest pre fire ive seen from a bot.

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u/Blyatzilla Jan 18 '22

He must be hacking, report

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u/Heshman69 Jan 18 '22

I remember bot Connor all too well. Bot Xavier also gave me a hard time

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u/wheredidmywalletgo Jan 18 '22

Connor was the 3 coin bot who was as good or better than those 5 coin bots. MinH and that bullpup guy were really great

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u/KlassicNinja Jan 18 '22

He's probably talking about faceit bots and not offline bots. Where those mfs were literally doing aces.

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u/albi-_- Jan 18 '22

What if you

wanted bot to stay spawn

But the bot says:

"no"

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u/Random_Name_7 INFECTED Jan 17 '22

Bots in chess already surpassed us long ago.They are legitimately much better than Magnus Carlsen, world champion.

They play chess in a completely different way, make crazy sacrifices, suffocate you. You play against a high level bot and make no mistakes, no blunders, not even any innacuracies... And still lose. Hikaru Nakamura, 2nd best player, says that they play looking at the squares, not at the pieces. That's some crazy shit.

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u/gsartr Jan 17 '22

Hikaru is not numbee 2 for some years (outside of blitz, where he's in contention for number 1).

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u/Random_Name_7 INFECTED Jan 17 '22

Yeah, I'm talking about blitz for his number 2 spot.

Although, looking at the June 2021 fide rating, Hikaru is the 2nd player FIDE behind Magnus

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u/ecchi_yajur The Great P.P. Group Jan 18 '22

In classical Hikaru isn't even in the top 10.

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u/Lightbation Jan 17 '22

If you make no mistakes, how do you still lose?

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u/Random_Name_7 INFECTED Jan 18 '22

Fair question, but it happens.

Chess is a game where you can play every move super well, but the bot simply played a strategy accounting for you playing every move optimally and leading you to an inescapable situation where you lose. They think 50 moves ahead, it's ridiculous. You can spot the way a bot plays easily, even a stupid ass 1400 like me can spot it.

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u/AliothMerak ☣️ Jan 18 '22

So what if I play well in the beginning and do a controversial move later?

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u/Leopardstings Jan 18 '22

if you do that shit constantly, with a 98%+ accuracy, and ur rating is 2000 or below, thats gonna raise some questions. I'm 1900 and still only get like 80% average

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u/NOWfearo Jan 18 '22

The bots make crazy decisions which force you into situations in which, no matter what you do, you’ll get outmaneuvered

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u/Lightbation Jan 18 '22

I know, I was just being a smartass.

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u/Oryv Jan 18 '22

No, it's a valid question. Besides, allowing a zugzwang is indeed a mistake.

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u/Lightbation Jan 18 '22

Should have zigzagged when I zugzwanged.

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u/_E8_ Jan 18 '22

By "crazy decisions" do you mean they offer up pieces for you to capture when it makes no apparent sense to do so?

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u/HaansThePenguin Jan 18 '22

They just look much further than you can, so its not like crazy sacrifices are the be all and end all for them, as long as 50 moves down the line it thinks it’s winning, it plays it.

Edit: but yes some of their moves seem nonsense until later into the game when their grand plan of making you contemplate suicide is revealed

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u/Nunuyz Jan 18 '22

"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life chess."

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u/myname_isnot_kyal Jan 18 '22

cuz bots be like "beep boop" then checkmate your ass

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u/MyNameBelongs2Me Jan 18 '22

Because they initiate in the most optimal way possible.

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u/nonlogin Jan 18 '22

The opponent makes no mistakes neither

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u/LeBadlyNamedRedditor Jan 18 '22

Not really, if both players play perfectly, its a draw.

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u/Random_Name_7 INFECTED Jan 18 '22

It's most definitely not. Watch stockfish vs alphazero, the 2 best AI's playing each other.

They both play undeniably perfectly. The thing is, one finds an idea that it's so obscure, so far ahead in the game, that the evaluation is incapable of even calling it a brilliant move ( brilliant moves being moves that are so amazing the evaluation didn't find it before you played). This one thing gives it a very slight edge, this slight edge is pushed and pushed to the limit, eventually winning.

The other bot didn't miss anything, played like an actual god, but still lost.

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u/LeBadlyNamedRedditor Jan 18 '22

But then they didnt play perfectly, they played near-perfect, better than any human, but not perfectly.

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u/DrWCTapir Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

Why the hell is this getting downvoted, by definition perfect means no better move. And chess isn't solved, so we don't know what the outcome is if both players play perfectly from the start. We just assume that it's a draw in the end.

Edit: In reality in chess which is a game of perfect knowledge (ie. You see everything your opponent does) it is mathematically proven that with perfect play all moves are either winning losing or drawing. There are no good moves no mistakes no bad moves, only losing, drawing and winning moves. The other names are just ones that us humans made up and we think a certain move is good or bad based on how far ahead we can see.

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u/LeBadlyNamedRedditor Jan 18 '22

Its getting downvoted because the first guy who saw it downvoted, the second guy decided that he liked negative numbers, and the rest want to make the number grow.

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u/Worth-Professional60 Jan 18 '22

True. Just because we don't understand the moves doesn't make it perfect. If you ask stockfish to evaluate its own moves and it says it's perfect but then gets destroyed by Alpha zero, it's move really weren't perfect. Way better than what humans would find but not perfect.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

stockfish isn't ai and alphazero was never one of the best the games were rigged they used an older version of stockfish on underpowered hardware alpha zero was never released to public it could only be used by google and they stopped devoloping it .

leela chess zero project used a similar approach and is actively being devoloped but still stockfish is far better

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u/Worth-Professional60 Jan 18 '22

Both of them didn't play perfectly. Perfect moves are decided by engines like stockfish. If you feed stockfish its own moves, it's obviously going to call it perfect. It even disagrees with some of Alpha zeros moves but after the move is played and you let it compute for a while it sees the advantage. Engines are ever evolving. Alpha zero is the most perfect engine to date, so it will find imperfections in stockfish's play. In the future there might be an engine which beats Alpha zero and finds imperfections in its play. Just because we can't comprehend the moves it makes doesn't make it perfect.

If you want to see a perfect game, atleast by today's standards see Alpha zero vs Alpha zero, which 'shockingly' ended in a draw because they both played perfectly.

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u/gsartr Jan 18 '22

Alpha zero was the most perfect engine. It stopped being developed and now engines like the new stockfish that neural networks are better. The computer that does analysis usually is a weaker version of stockfish, that analyzes the game with shallower depth to speed up the process, so some of the moves are considered mistakes. But if you give the game to the newest stockfish it will recognjze that the moves were not mistakes.

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u/Worth-Professional60 Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

I'm not talking about the weak Stockfish engine we use in chess.com and such. Stockfish at the highest depths and Alpha zero both have been used to analyse the games. It also showed that both have different opinions (for the lack of a better word). Like Alpha zero would only show an advantage of +2 while stockfish might show +5. And in other positions stockfish would think it is equal while Alpha zero showed it has a clear advantage. In the games they played, atleast Stockfish didn't play perfect moves. To say all moves that were played were perfect would be to say chess as a game has been solved. And given that neural networks like Leela and stockfish aswell have improved soo much shows there is still a long way to go before we have a perfect game.

We should also take into account that perfect moves for engines and humans are very different things. A 0.5 advantage for engines might be enough sometimes to push for a winning advantage, while for humans it would usually end in a dead draw. So while a move by stockfish would only give Alpha zero an advantage of maybe 0.3 - 0.5 is perfectly reasonable and Stockfish might evaluate it as even. Alpha zero can press that advantage constantly to get the win, even though all other moves by stockfish were perfect.

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u/_E8_ Jan 18 '22

It took a supercomputer to beat Carlsen.

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u/42gauge Jan 18 '22

What does he mean by looking at the squares and not the pieces?

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u/Leopardstings Jan 18 '22

i think engines have little regard to the pawns and anything else, as long as the end goal is a winning endgame, or checkmate. They will sac a queen for a pawn if they see a forced mate in like 15

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u/Cookldog Jan 17 '22

True This happened to me playing chess I got annihilated by the bot

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u/Surround_Extra Jan 17 '22 edited Jan 17 '22

Who tf plays against the bots?

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u/Cookldog Jan 17 '22

All my friends quit because I’m to good

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u/Surround_Extra Jan 17 '22

Nice one.Nearly got me. Like reddit users have friends.

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u/RoyalClasher_exe Jan 18 '22

im on a quest to beat every bot on chess.com

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u/Random_Name_7 INFECTED Jan 18 '22

Lmao good luck on the 2500+ bots

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u/Shubverse Jan 18 '22

You can use it to analyze yourself

Sometimes after games I run analysis and try to play the position against a not whether my position was winning or losing to see what's the best moves and how I can react to them if I find them in the future

Sometimes I use bots to practice certain positions

Sometimes I use them to practice checkmate techniques like checkmating with Rook, two bishops etc

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u/Surround_Extra Jan 18 '22

Yes you can use bots for practice but to play a full match? Aaaa can't do that.

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u/zanna_92 Jan 18 '22

I do, mainly because I’m a total noob trying to learn the game and post-game analysis/hints make it easier to spot mistakes. also, I’m not comfortable enough playing against other people.

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u/Surround_Extra Jan 18 '22

If you don't play against other people you can never really understand the game.Computers play the same shit every time,people dont.You should try to play against real poeple.It will help you improve a lot.

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u/Juffin Jan 17 '22

In most games bots are weak because they are supposed to be weak. They will annihilate you if you tweak a few parameters.

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u/JumpyLiving 🚔I commit tax evasion💲🤑 Jan 17 '22

Yeah, if bots in shooters were supposed to be good, instead of fun, they would immediately headshot you the instant you stepped into a position where they have a line of effect on you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22 edited Jan 31 '22

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u/Aquadon28 Jan 18 '22

Or Halo 2 jackals

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u/Amasimpleguy Jan 17 '22

Oh so like the bots in gta v

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u/hrpc Jan 18 '22

[Activates rapid fire]

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u/Ironbird207 Jan 18 '22

I remember CounterStrike 1.6 bots, felt good to kill just one of them. Murder bots is what they were.

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u/Vectorman1989 INFECTED Jan 18 '22

CS Source bots used to freak me out because they'd talk to each other.

"Sector clear"

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u/Snuke2001 Jan 18 '22

The difference between valve bots and [VALVE] bots

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u/Remnatar Animated Flair Rainbow [Insert Your Own Text]☣️ Jan 18 '22

Can relate

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u/f2ame5 Jan 17 '22

Its funny how people dont make the connections. Aimbot. A bot aims for you. People cry about hackers who use "bot" skills but at the same time if you suck they call you a bot.

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u/BioloItz Jan 17 '22

Beats 1200 chess bot. Gets annihilated after playing against the 1000 bot for fun.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

funny meme and all but IT'S FUCKING GUNHEAD

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u/starscreamsghost17 Jan 17 '22

It's Lock down, so much wasted potential in that character.

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u/Cybertronian-Knight Jan 18 '22

yeah i agree that he was wasted. My most favorite tf movie villain, still happy with what i got

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u/IGS_Reddit Jan 18 '22

His voice actor was top notch too. Fucking phenomenal

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u/lolwhaat123 Jan 18 '22

tbh he gives me Shaw vibes from f&f

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u/Cybertronian-Knight Jan 18 '22

Mark Ryan is a legendary actor

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u/like_bananana Jan 17 '22

Stockfish 14 absolutely terrifies me

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u/Calmandpeace Jan 17 '22

It’s almost 1000 elo above Magnus Carlson. Absolutely terrifying.

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u/AlphaDonkey1 Jan 17 '22

Google en passant

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u/Echo_thehedgehog Jan 17 '22

I see a transformers meme, I upvote faster than my dad leaving for the milk.

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u/Rubi_69420 Jan 18 '22

me : moves 1 piece the analyser : that was a horrible mistake , have you ever played chess before? fucking idiot

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u/ComprehensiveLeg9501 Jan 17 '22

我想在我的老闆體內射精

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u/DinoLavasaur Jan 17 '22

I feel like this has far too few upvotes. Chess bots must be activating to downvote this out of the top posts

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u/Webster2001 CERTIFIED DANK Jan 18 '22

Lockdown was my second favourite transformers villain after Megatron. I mean you can't get cooler than having a gun on your face, plus the dude transforms into a Lamborghini. Who doesn't love that?

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u/Fuehrung Jan 18 '22

bots in all videogames will always win if they are made to win. most bots are not so you can have some fun and not get roflstomped by a mediocre ai

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u/tomrest5656 Jan 18 '22

Ive heard last boss in tekken 2 on arcades (on the hardest difficulty) was reading your inputs and perfectly countered all your moves to eat all your quarters

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u/Oryv Jan 18 '22

Not true; humans are still undeniably better at some video games. One example of this would be social deduction games, like Town of Salem.

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u/Tomas_Crusader17 ☣️ Jan 17 '22

bots in chess can beat grandmasters

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u/h0ls86 Jan 17 '22

Unreal Tournament from 1999 on godlike > chess bots.

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u/Sriad Jan 18 '22

"Witness my perfection."

Getting shit-talked by Xan in the 1v1 final level... classic.

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u/Sengle473 Jan 17 '22

That's not me that's MvM

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u/Senseiseee Jan 17 '22

Bots in Escape from Tarkov goes brrrrr

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u/Lord-Rune Jan 17 '22

Rogues make raiders look like cabbage patch kids.

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u/Alarmed-Slip-2648 Jan 17 '22

Makes the tf2 bots look like babies

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u/clone_ranger The OC High Council Jan 18 '22

They are literally 4 parallel universe ahead of you.

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u/LFGR_THE_Thing Jan 18 '22

You mean 1504793 universes

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u/Gustavo-Leyva Jan 18 '22

You think I fucking care?! I have a fucking gun for a head!

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u/anand3294s Jan 18 '22

Such a badass entry for Lockdown...

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u/Hironoveau Jan 18 '22

I can't even get away from Counter Strike: Source Bots that uses Glock to headshot me.

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u/TheCatPetra Jan 18 '22

Bots in osu: amateurs

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u/MR_M1997 Jan 17 '22

Fight fire with fire, use a bot to decide your moves

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u/zenikkal Jan 18 '22

Alot of people use bots?

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u/bestofznerol Jan 18 '22

Chess bot: So you have chosen . . . . death

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u/AverageOtakuWeeb1 Jan 18 '22

I can barely beat the 1800 level bot. How you do this?

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u/BigCunkyBoye Jan 18 '22

just imagine using chess bot on world war, we are doom

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u/Wakked Jan 18 '22

High ELO bots will play a perfect endgame. That’s how they win.

Some players can win the opening, but will never beat a max level not in the end game.

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u/ur_average_escalator Jan 18 '22

Still waiting for chess 2 to come out

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u/ur_average_escalator Jan 18 '22

still waiting for chess 2 to come out

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u/JentHwen Jan 18 '22

Bots in osu:😎👉

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u/Affectionate_Gate_26 Jan 18 '22

I heard bots in Chess 2 will be deadlier

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u/RoyalClasher_exe Jan 18 '22

ngl chess bots will take over the world in the future

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u/RossGold42 Jan 18 '22

Bots in Tarkov head eyes mf

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u/The_Memeist_1000 Jan 18 '22

Bots normally: I'm too poor I can't even win against a noob. Bots playing chess: I have become death destroyer of worlds

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u/SubpabUwU Jan 18 '22

Bots in codm are fucking maniacs

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u/MrStoneV Jan 18 '22

DeepMind created an AI that learned by players database of plays. Its crazy how good an ai can be, it beats the best grandmasters and that was like 2 years ago.

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u/pixidis43 Jan 18 '22

Chess bot make me doubt my intelligence

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Bots in games are made to be stupid. Firstly you don't want bots to be better than players or people would prefer playing with bots secondly if bots were made good they would melt people with lock on 360 noscope headshots.

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u/WorkingNo6161 Jan 18 '22

Bots in FPS games: cheems

Bots in Chess: swole doge

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u/Powerman293 Jan 18 '22

In the mid 1990s, it took an entire team at IBM to make a supercomputer dedicated to playing chess. And in order to win against the best chess player at the time, IBM deliberately had to give the computer an advantage by screwing over Kasparov so he would play worse.

Today in 2022, you can download an Android app for even the most basic phones and have an even more aggressive bot wreck your shit even if you play perfectly.

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u/SamTehCool Jan 18 '22

give a ravenfield bot full arsenal acess like the player, now suffer

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u/Monsieur_Puma Jan 18 '22

Chess isn’t a game

Chess is a way of life

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u/MaiMaiThiNguyen Jan 18 '22

I can't think of any game where bots couldn't beat humans after seeing alpha star winning against starcraft2 pros. There are even bots beating human pros at poker, where most would think it's about social intelligence.

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u/LFGR_THE_Thing Jan 18 '22

I want to see someone put 2 bots head to head in chess

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u/fighting_pain Jan 18 '22

Bots in brawlhalla: hold my weapon

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u/ScaryBunnyDude Jan 18 '22

Tee hee headcannon

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u/EffectiveAd4158 Jan 18 '22

Bots in for honor:hold my met/sake/wine

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u/Former_Squash_8724 Jan 18 '22

Ok but if you’re optimus who is technically a bot, you’re a bot in chess

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u/Spikefall9777 Jan 18 '22

Name of transformer that shot Optimus please!!!! I must have him for the collection

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u/TheyKilledFlipyap Jan 18 '22

Lockdown, from Age of Extinction.

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u/Spikefall9777 Jan 18 '22

Thank you!!!!

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u/majiboi Jan 18 '22

Bot in GO be like: Amateurs

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u/nelsoncgosi08 Jan 18 '22

Bots in Gears or war 2:

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u/tsknrbi Jan 18 '22

Tarkov Scavs be like

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u/Trashlordx2 Jan 18 '22

See also, bots in tarkov

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u/Substantial-Trick569 Jan 18 '22

That's what happens when games don't get updated in 1500 years, the AI learned every possible outcome.

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u/_Troxin_ Jan 18 '22

Bots in AoE2 ... (for me) on very easy the bots are just brain dead and on easy they fucked me and my friends allways with no mercy

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u/2plash6 Jan 18 '22

Computer chess will end the world.

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u/panda_from_downunder Jan 18 '22

Tic Tac Toe Bots > Chess Bots

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u/woodboy7274 Jan 19 '22

You mean in tarkov yes