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Shkreli ordered to return $64M, is barred from drug industry

https://apnews.com/article/martin-shkreli-daraprim-profits-fb77aee9ed155f9a74204cfb13fc1130
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u/Dregoran Jan 15 '22

So you don't have an answer and are just defaulting to the "if you can't figure it out it's not worth my time" option. In reality you have no idea why it's relevant but are in too deep and can't admit it now.

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u/Dregoran Jan 15 '22

It absolutely does. It's a question and questions lead to further discussion. Questions are a great way to add to a conversation and continue that conversation in a very natural way.

Asking for it's relevancy I'd argue adds more to the conversation than just throwing out populations with no explanation as to what relevance that has to the topic at hand.

If people were discussing the US and Sweden at a table you were at, and you randomly just stated their populations, that doesn't really do much does it? It actually detracts from the conversation and drives it off the rails rather than adding anything.

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u/Dregoran Jan 15 '22

And several of those people pointed out why what you added was not relevant. You just chose to believe that's not the case. Adding stupid unnecessary information isn't any better than asking redundant stupid questions.

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u/Dregoran Jan 15 '22

I get that, but that's not how it truly works. Most recent data shows Sweden with 4.3 physicians per 1k people and the US at 2.6. Both of which are well above the recommended 1:1000 by the WHO.

I get you are using a made up dramatized example but it's truly not that large of a difference between the two countries currently. Now imagine how much that number would go up for the US if they offered free medical school like Sweden as well! But some how free college is magically communism, but 12 years of public school isn't.

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u/Dregoran Jan 15 '22

I'd assume a mix of ease of traveling/services here mixed with advanced medicine. Our reputation as "The greatest country on Earth" probably leads some to believe we have superior options as well. I haven't really travelled much so I'm not aware of what options some countries have, but it may also be having places like the Mayo campuses where you've got many specialists in a single building.

I think places like Sweden for instance, it's hard to get medical care as a non citizen if it isn't emergency care. Though I'm not 100% sure on that claim.

All guesses of course. I genuinely don't know why people travel here. Especially when Americans are well known to be medical tourists going to Mexico and things like that for reduced costs.

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u/Howyougontellme Jan 15 '22

The US also has 60 times more hospitals then Sweden while only 30 times more people. I don't think we'd have problems with capacity under normal conditions assuming we can incentivize jobs for doctors and nurses. And in the long term, if people have more access to healthcare, the amount of people needing it should eventually go down.