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Shkreli ordered to return $64M, is barred from drug industry


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u/Colorado1996 Jan 14 '22

Made millions from hiking prices from $13.50 to $750

Damn, saw that line and thought they were talking about insulin. Price gouging has happened on multiple life saving drugs? People are the worst


u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22

Insulin should have a co-pay of about $2. Or less.


u/Colorado1996 Jan 14 '22

I think there’s a strong case that insulin should be free. But ya I’ll take $2 or less


u/Reutermo Jan 14 '22

It is free by law here in Sweden. Have been since the 60s.


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u/biggestbroever Jan 14 '22

If this is communist california, sign me up


u/milk4all Jan 15 '22

If ever there was a state financially and socially ready to leave the union, it’s us. If it could be done without closing borders or too big a disruption to transport and trade, i wonder what that would look like with a few decades of preparation.


u/Splice1138 Jan 15 '22

With our ~54 electoral votes gone, the US would never elect another left president. It'd be Jesusland for real


u/fersure4 Jan 15 '22

If CA ever tried to leave the country many other states would follow suit.

I honestly wouldn't hate America splintering into several different countries.


u/trahoots Jan 15 '22

I bet the New England states would stick together and that’d be a pretty cool place to live.

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u/Splice1138 Jan 15 '22

Absolutely there are other states just as liberal as California, but we're so large we have more votes than even the next two combined (NY (28) + PA or IL (19), if I'm reading correctly).

California leaving would be the dam bursting.

Of course that's partly because the electoral college is loco any way you slice it.


u/JT99-FirstBallot Jan 15 '22

I would immediately move from the south east States, AKA SECountry.

It would be the worst country immediately.

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u/TucuReborn Jan 15 '22

This is basically what ended up happening to the Roman Empire. They expanded too far, social and political issues arose, and eventually were brought down by only themselves and fragmented into many smaller nations. The USA is on a similar path. We're trying to be the world peacekeeper and failing, we are rife with so many social and political issues it's staggering, and we are more divided than anyone alive can remember. We're the late stage Roman Empire, and we probably will crumble soon unless sweeping, major changes occur. And even then, those changes even if good may speed it up or just postpone it for a few decades.


u/Dultsboi Jan 15 '22

The Balkanization of America is more likely than most people hope. As an outsider, America feels like a crumbling empire waiting for the one spark to set the whole thing up in flames


u/quietguy_6565 Jan 15 '22

Neither would china and Russia. Balkanization would be bad....for everything and everyone


u/allanb49 Jan 15 '22

The former U.S.A

The former U.S.S.R

It's plausible


u/godisanelectricolive Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

Use Canada as the connector. Most blue states are either connected to another blue state or to Canada. If Colorado can be persuaded to join then New Mexico and Colorado would also be connected to Greater Canada. So if they all join Canada then the coastal and blue Midwestern states can stay together (Hawaii can also join if they want) and still be basically tied with China in terms of GDP.

Canada's economy is close to that of Texas so that'd be a consolation for losing the wealthiest red state. Canada also has a lot of land and untapped natural resources.

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u/CJ_Guns Jan 15 '22

NY here. Grew up in VT with the secession push. Ready to dip as a package deal.


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u/OohYeahOrADragon Jan 15 '22

Yeah but think about citizenship shit. If you make a new country, does its current population get papers saying they're automatic citizens of seceded California? What about people who were born there but have since moved? What about green card/naturalized Americans, do they need to go through another immigrant process to get citizenship in New California?