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Shkreli ordered to return $64M, is barred from drug industry


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u/fersure4 Jan 15 '22

If CA ever tried to leave the country many other states would follow suit.

I honestly wouldn't hate America splintering into several different countries.


u/JT99-FirstBallot Jan 15 '22

I would immediately move from the south east States, AKA SECountry.

It would be the worst country immediately.


u/Andromansis Jan 15 '22

You mean the states that would be financially reliant on the northern states because they haven't been revenue positive in the previous 100 years?


u/CamJongUn Jan 15 '22

Yeah they go on about not needing the blue states but other than Texas most republican states don’t make any money, which makes it even better when the vote against aid for people then beg for it when they need it because they’re poor


u/Splice1138 Jan 15 '22

"State's rights!", not "state's responsibilities"


u/milk4all Jan 15 '22

I oh lived in one of them. MO is a train wreck and it’s conservative population is proud of being poor, under educated, over worked, and “Christian”. When i lived there (not super long ago) whole communites depended on plants and call centers that paid $8-11/hr. When i lost a good job there thanks to corporate restructuring after the bubble burst, i found the best paying job i could - a manual job in a filthy plant that turned the inside of your car yellow, eve parked down the street, just from what came through the cabin filter. It paid 10/hr and had some shitty incentive pay, but i worked 9-18 hours a day for 2 years just to cover housing, healthcare, transportation, and actually have money to both save and spend. Most buddies of mine either worked a straight 40 for between 8 and 12 and hour, or didnt work much and relied on odd jobs and selling weed to get buy. There’s churches across from churches, and extremely obvious extremes in wealth between all the rural ranchers and pretty much everyone else who wasnt a doctor or in reality. And my god they hated obama, and generally made no pretense about why.


u/aboycandream Jan 15 '22

Texas is also a welfare state, they take more in revenue than they bring in


u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Wow chill out, it’s not you support welfare. If you do then it’s just welfare on a larger scale, which you support? If you support welfare then you support propping up southern states and allowing them to become reliant on handouts instead of making their own money. Just like you support people doing the same.


u/That_Bar_Guy Jan 15 '22

I'm sure you're referring to strong peer reviewed studies establishing a trend for this, could I see em? Very strong words if this is just a personal opinion.


u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

I’m just using what the guy above me says to start my reasoning and taking it from there.


u/That_Bar_Guy Jan 15 '22

Yes and there's plenty of hard evidence that red states tend to take more from the national budget than they contribute, even as they vote against disaster relief measures for other states. I would like to see the evidence that social support structures lead to forming worse habits around work and people remaining destitute with assistance longer than they would without.


u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Look at the states that do not produce a surplus not changing anything because they’re allowed to fuck up and the successful people make up for it


u/That_Bar_Guy Jan 15 '22

Are you arguing that states being thrown about at the whims of a huge web of politicians have the exact behavioral responses that individuals do?

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