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A young baby reading
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u/Gnarly_Sarley
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Okay, there's a lot of negative comments here...
Yes, there is quite a bit of memorization involved in this but that is EXACTLY what learning to read looks like for toddlers. It starts with memorizing the alphabet, as in the shape and sounds of the letters. Then learnimg how multiple letters put together make phonetic sounds and can make singles syllable words.
Bravo to these parents.
The haters are either not parents, or are jealous because they're lazy parents, or they're just fucking racist and they see black parents being better parents than they are so they're posting hate
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u/InVodkaVeritas Jan 26 '23
Sight Words.
We all start by memorizing our sight words.
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u/OpenSeaworthiness940 Jan 26 '23
That is not actually the most effective way. People thought sight words were the way to go but good readers don't actually memorise while chunks of letters and store them as one visual chunk. They rapidly recognise each letter sound individually and map it onto the meaning in the brain. Teaching sight words is not actually best practice. Reading science has greatly improved in the last 20-30 years or so.
Source: reading specialist involved at the governmental level in getting people to recognise best practice in teaching reading and spelling. Just google science of reading and structured literacy
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u/Prohibitorum Jan 26 '23
Maybe something you can answer then: speed reading. What's up with that? You see people on the internet sometimes demonstrating that they can read an insane WPM. I'm a decently fast reader, but no where near what those people can do.
What is it, how does it work, and can you actually process the information properly if you speedread?
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u/ZealDK Jan 26 '23
I’m not who you asked. But you need to silence your inner voice when you read (stop “saying” the words inside your head, just register and move on to the next) and then the speed is only limited by your eyes and comprehension.
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u/6double Jan 26 '23
My ADHD won't let that happen, I'd just stop thinking about what I'm reading and end up 3 pages later with no idea of what I read
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u/elfmere Jan 26 '23
Is that what that is . Because yeah if i dont say the words the words have no meaning.
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u/6double Jan 26 '23
I think most people read by saying the words with their inner voice. But also I'm not a great source for what "normal" is so definitely fact check that one lol
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u/LacquerCritic Jan 26 '23
The split between people with and without an inner voice is pretty even, so I wouldn't say "most".
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u/TheSameYellow Jan 26 '23
I have ADHD and I’ve always read without the “voice in my head”. It’s not necessarily cause and effect.
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u/isendingtheworld Jan 26 '23
My ADHD is the opposite. As soon as I start sounding out a word it makes less sense to me and I go off on a tangent about related words because autistic spin, and then stop reading all together.
ADHD brains be like "There is ONE way to do this. MY way. Any other method and we riot."
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u/starlinguk Jan 26 '23
People say the words inside their heads? TIL. I just read sentences in chunks of words.
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u/MuchBetterThankYou Jan 26 '23
I’m not the above person, and I can only offer my limited experience, but I started learning to speed read when I was younger. It involves training your eyes to recognize clusters of words instead of individual words, as well as learning to turn off your “internal voice” that slows down your reading. You CAN comprehend and remember the things you read this way, but if you’re reading for fun, you lose a lot of the imagination and internal dialogue that makes reading pleasurable, which is why I didn’t pursue it very long. Instead of it being like a movie playing in your head, it’s more like simply scanning a document and saving it to a disc in your head. It’s useful for studying, or breezing through a large amount of novels joylessly so you can brag about how fast you read lol.
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u/DonaldTMan123 Jan 26 '23
Speed reading is the GOAT of "I have a test in 10 minutes and didn't study"
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u/ikmkim Jan 26 '23
You can go ahead and stop posting the same comment now.
The details you're talking about reference older children. Not 1-3 year olds.
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u/Thanos_Stomps Jan 26 '23
Best practices these days is to actually incorporate sight words into phonics lessons. Such as doing it based on the sounds you’re working with and not necessarily by the frequency of the word.
Second, high frequency words can be useful when you are teaching reading more difficult words. Behavior momentum is a common behavioral intervention wherein you ask a learner to complete a small task with a high likelihood of success before giving them a task that is more difficult. These are called high probability requests.
It seems people are also referring to some different age groups here, but also children just develop at different rates and it’s hard to say “best practices” and ignore an entire teaching method. Your instruction should always be differentiated based on your learners.
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u/damienv5 Jan 26 '23
Agreed. If this is Your Baby Can Read, I bought it for my son 15 years ago, and the wife and I followed it closely for a year. He could finish any Harry Potter book in less than day by the time he was 10, and he's been ranked at least 2 grades higher than his class in testing every year, including comprehension. It works.
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u/WhyamImetoday Jan 26 '23
These ads are really clever.
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u/stat_throwaway_5 Jan 26 '23
When Reddit is polluted with ads, I like to give myself a clean mind and a clean home by making a pass with my Dyson v15 absolute vacuum. Its new laser hard floor cleaner highlights dirt so you can see it easily, and the HEPA filter catches particles as small as .03 microns.
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u/fanbreeze Jan 26 '23
https://jezebel.com/your-baby-can-read-goes-out-of-business-broke-and-accu-5926283
'Your Baby Can Read' Goes Out Of Business, Broke and Accused of Swindling Parents
By Dodai Stewart Published July 16, 2012Your Baby Can Read, the program that promised to teach infants to read using flashcards and DVDs, has gone out of business. It's the latest development in a tumultuous couple of years.
NBC reporter Jeff Rossen investigated the program back in 2010, questioning leading experts and professors, all of whom called the results shown in the program's infomercials "misleading" and a "manipulation of facts." The guy who ran the program, Dr. Robert Titzer, actually went on TV and said, "I'm not a traditional expert as far as reading…" Whoops.Last year, The Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood (CCFC) filed a complaint with the FTC, accusing Your Baby Can Read of making "false and misleading claims" designed to "take advantage of parents' natural desire to provide every possible advantage for their young children."
Moreover, YBC's recommendations for using the product fly in the face of the American Academy of Pediatrics ("AAP") and White House Task force on Childhood Obesity's recommendations of no "television and video" and no "television" for children under age two and research suggesting that watching videos at such a young age may negatively affect a child's development.Today, the CCFC considers the Your Baby Can Read shutdown a victory, stating:
Research links infant screen time to sleep disturbances, attention problems, and delayed language acquisition, as well as problems in later childhood such as poor school performance and childhood obesity. The American Academy of Pediatrics, and other public health organizations, recommend no screen time for infants and toddlers. But if parents followed Your Baby Can Read!'s viewing instructions, their baby would have watched more than 200 hours by the age of nine months.
As of right now, there are still some Your Baby Can Read DVD sets in stock and available for sale on Amazon. The folks at the company deny the allegations, but say they are broke, according to a statement on the company website:
For more than 6 years, Your Baby Can Read! has been enjoyed and appreciated by families world-wide as an innovative reading concept for babies and young children.
Regretfully, the cost of fighting recent legal issues has left us with no option but to cease business operations. While we vehemently deny any wrongdoing, and strongly believe in our products, the fight has drained our resources to the point where we can no longer continue operating.
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u/JudgeGlasscock Jan 26 '23
I think you can be active and good parents, but not consider yourself or baby a failure if you don't have reading skills of this baby.
But if you post hate, it is a reflection either of yourself as a parent or negative thoughts of your child. This baby is amazing, and the dedication of these parents should inspire you.
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u/No-Face-3848 Jan 26 '23
I hated it because I can't read
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u/No-Face-3848 Jan 26 '23
And yes I realize somebody is going to say well then how did you read this comment but I only memorized I can't read and the sentence above mine
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u/Seanspeed Jan 26 '23
or they're just fucking racist
On Reddit, that's always going to be a decent percentage of it.
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u/TheMeanGirl Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
Isn’t all reading memorization? Sure, as an adult, I can sound out the letters of a word I don’t know and get pretty close to proper pronunciation… maybe I could take a crack at the meaning by dissecting the parts of the word… but unless I memorize the definition of the word, it’s likely useless to me.
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u/Still-Pie6253 Jan 26 '23
Exactly. Why do people have to hate? Baby learns to read early and makes the correct sounds. How can that be bad?
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u/danrod17 Jan 26 '23
To be honest I still don't know if I know how to read or if I've just memorized the shapes of words.
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u/Sad_Celebration_5370 Jan 26 '23
Very cool, but that is clearly an old baby. Young babies still have hope for the future. By 9 mos they are day drinking and getting in fights on Reddit.
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u/sheshopelesslyinlove Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
I can't screenshot on laptop. Somebody do it for me!
Edit: OK I GOT IT TY I KNOW HOW TO SCREENSHOT NOW
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u/morgboer Jan 26 '23
You still have to tell her you’re proud too! 😂
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u/bukzbukzbukz Jan 26 '23
I have thought this might be a pretty difficult thing about being a parent. I feel like I can always sense a slight disappointment among the academically achieved parents whose children are just.. not particularly gifted.
To be excited about all the things you could show and teach your child but they're just disinterested
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u/barofa Jan 26 '23
My daughter is just an average girl on school. I'm not any type of genius by any means, but I always did very well in school.
She lives with her mother and comes every 2 weekends (different city). Last week we studied math together as she was having difficulty with it.
Yesterday she told me her teacher said she got the highest grade among the class on Monday's exam. That feels so good.
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u/morgboer Jan 26 '23
Eventually, you make peace with it and keep an eye open for small opportunities to influence them
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u/ediel1ttleveruda Jan 26 '23
Its ok some people learn by reading, some need diagrams and your kid learns through taste!
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u/throwaway09876543123 Jan 26 '23
My preschooler has been learning the letter ‘o’ since Monday. I asked him what animal starts with ‘o.’ He said oguana…
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u/Hot_Tank_9737 Jan 26 '23
I taught my youngest daughter to read 3-5 letter words at 1.5 years old. She was so advanced in reading by kindergarten/1st grade that her teacher submitted her for gifted student testing. However, early reading doesn't automatically translate to high intelligence and she was ultimately deemed "not gifted" (kinda an effed up thing to say by a group of teachers gathered around a child and parent). Moral of the story: Teach your kids to read as early as possible, not to build geniuses, but to build more competent children and academically capable students.
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u/AdonalsiumReborn Jan 26 '23
I was a ‘gifted student’ approved by the self important group of teachers. They even put me in a nice school that was a weird mix of public and private. Guess what… I’m a mechanic now, love to read and write and learn about stuff, but don’t have half the intelligence needed to grasp complex issues in any scientific field. It’s meaningless as an adult, you taught your kid to read early because you love her and want her to have a good life, she’s gonna likely do well just by having a parent like you who really loves her.
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u/apathy-sofa Jan 26 '23
On the other hand, mechanics are all, to some degree, scientists. I'm reminded of a line from Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance:
An untrained observer will see only physical labor and often get the idea that physical labor is mainly what the mechanic does. Actually the physical labor is the smallest and easiest part of what the mechanic does. By far the greatest part of his work is careful observation and precise thinking.
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u/ownerthrowaway Jan 26 '23
To follow up you and the other guy. I was in a very similar situation to him. Gifted got kicked out for fighting but I got into those schools. Dropped out after flunking 7th grade twice and became a mechanic as well. Now I'm an electrical engineer. Dude can still change his stars if he feels they need changing. Being a mechanic is honorable but it's a shit way to make a living.
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u/xmrtypants Jan 26 '23
I was also a "gifted student"
I went to a school in an overwhelmingly Hispanic neighborhood. Why were all the kids in the gifted class white? And Justin? We all knew he was dumb as shit.
Our teacher for the gifted and talented class (whose last name was suspiciously the school's name, but it was a public school) proceeded to teach us that the civil war was about state's rights.
One of the ways she did this was by beginning the day by announcing that the "gifted" students would no longer get recess (4th grade) because we needed to use our talents for schoolwork. We spent the whole day arguing with her and at the end of the day she said they weren't really taking away recess but now we new how the southern states felt.
Bitch made me come into school on a Saturday on my birthday to finish some brainwashing assignment I hadn't completed.
"Gifted and talented" is used as code to perpetuate systemic racism and I won't be convinced otherwise.
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u/AdonalsiumReborn Jan 26 '23
Hmm my experience wasn’t at all like this. My parents are Indian immigrants and I’m a citizen by birth but have full Indian genes, my classmates were maybe 70% white and the rest black with one or two East Asian kids, kinda similar to the demographic (SeaTac around 2000ish). Great teachers, couldn’t have asked for better.
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u/Seanspeed Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
People's school experience can vary heavily based on where they were and at what time. The US frustratingly grants way too much autonomy to states. And Republicans are currently in a massive push to take over school boards and whatnot to take advantage of this.
My experience wasnt like that at all, though I'll accept I had little to no awareness of systemic racism when younger so I may also have missed many more subtle clues. I was at least that the Civil War was about slavery and all that, though.
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u/MrsRossGeller Jan 26 '23
It absolutely depends on where you live. Both my kids were in our districts gifted program; but they have to test into it after first grade with two different tests plus your scores on smarter balance or whatever general testing they are doing right now. It’s 95% or higher.
Nothing is perfect, but your experience isn’t everyone’s experience.
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u/FreeSkeptic Jan 26 '23
Have you joined the "gifted but grew up to be suicidally depressed" club?
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u/AdonalsiumReborn Jan 26 '23
Joined it and almost left it multiple times lol,but never actually tried suicide (just make shitty jokes about it). But those days are gone. I still have times where I become an emotional void that slowly turns into despair but they’re more rare now. I’m 29 now fwiw
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u/Holiday_Platypus_526 Jan 26 '23
There's no proof that early reading helps kids long term. So teach your kids to read when they seem ready.
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u/baddoggg Jan 26 '23
This is BS. The guy is holding signs up off camera telling the baby what the words are.
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u/Mecha_Tortoise Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
I doubt that. He barely looks up between cards.
Notice how his feet are out of frame? My guess is that mom is tapping out the words in Morse code on one of them.157
u/pituitarygrowth Jan 26 '23
There's obviously Braille on those cards. That's how he's reading them.
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u/Holzkohlen Jan 26 '23
It's binary. You just put the words in as constants and then recompile the baby. You people should really learn how to parent.
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u/birbantik Jan 26 '23
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the guy is like holding a sign with the word written on it. Th baby couldn't do this on his own
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u/Tannyar Jan 26 '23
That’s great but my six month old is already doing the grocery shopping and making dinner
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u/petepostlethwaite Jan 26 '23
My 4 month old is levitating every time dua lipa comes on the radio
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u/Rcast1293
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Stop treating baby's like their stupid and they'll grow to be intelligent
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u/0one1one1one1one0 Jan 26 '23
There. They’re. Their.
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u/Virtual-Courage-5762 Jan 26 '23
Babies
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u/CapriciousCape Jan 26 '23
Good point, they didn't say anything about not treating adult like they're stupid. Many are.
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u/MadTeaCup Jan 26 '23
You….uh…..like….that was on purpose right?
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u/No-Face-3848 Jan 26 '23
Somebody was getting in an argument with me yesterday and they spelled you're wrong three times in one post, when I pointed this out they stopped responding
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u/MadTeaCup Jan 26 '23
Earlier today I was involved in a comment thread, and the other guy eventually asked me what I thought I was arguing about. I had to remind him he was the one arguing a certain position and I was just pointing out contradictions. He deleted his comments and blocked me lol.
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u/Agreeable-Yams8972 Jan 26 '23
Redditors acting like professional parents even though they don't have kids
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u/AttractivePerson1 Jan 26 '23
All the negative comments in this post reminding me how acutely miserable people project their own bullshit on other peoples' success
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u/Infinitesima Jan 26 '23
I've yet seen a single negative comment lol
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u/CykoTom Jan 26 '23
You have to sort by controversial.
In other words you have to actively seek out the bad parts in other people so you can complain about how other people only see the bad parts in other people.
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u/DoobieWabbit Jan 26 '23
Or when they made the comment 8 hours before yours the comment section looked a little bit different
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u/SidekickCohost234 Jan 26 '23
Wow!!!! I hope my kids are lucky enough to work for him some day!
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u/No-Face-3848 Jan 26 '23
That kid ends up being the president of skynet, thanks for signing John Connors death note
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u/South-Potential-64 Jan 26 '23
I really dont think people understand how impressive this is for a child his/her age
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u/maxtacos Jan 26 '23
For real, I'm a literacy specialist, and I've worked with 10 year olds who can't do this due to reading delays.
The kid here has already memorized by sight words which includes actually includes multiple reading tasks (or memorization) that we take for granted: recognizing the beginning sound of the word, recognizing the end sound of the word, recognizing the middle sound, and knowing vowel generalizations. It's not as simple as recognizing the shape of letters or words, there's a lot of mini processes happening, and it's not at all usual for the brain to master these processes at this age, I'm not even worried if a kid can't do this when they are enrolled in kindergarten.
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u/Slapinsack Jan 26 '23
Another one of those mini processes happening is shown by the baby's ability to flip and turn those cards around with the dexterity of an adult.
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u/Itchy-Depth-5076 Jan 26 '23
If anyone's curious it's actually a phenomenon known as hyperlexia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperlexia
It used to be assumed to be in the autism spectrum. Now they know there are non-autistic types. Type 1: Neurotypical children who read early. Type 2: Children with autism who have Hyperlexia as a splinter skill. Type 3: Children without autism who read early, but have some autistic-like traits that fade over time.
These kids have a fascination for letters and words, and though some forced "baby Einstein" programs to make your child read early are just silly baby tricks, for kids like this you can't stop them.
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u/WikiSummarizerBot Jan 26 '23
Hyperlexia is a syndrome characterized by a child's precocious ability to read. It was initially identified by Norman E. Silberberg and Margaret C. Silberberg (1967), who defined it as the precocious ability to read words without prior training in learning to read, typically before the age of five. They indicated that children with hyperlexia have a significantly higher word-decoding ability than their reading comprehension levels. Children with hyperlexia also present with an intense fascination for written material at a very early age.
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u/Sensitive_Work_5351 Jan 26 '23
Yes! My son has this. It’s incredible… and terrifying
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u/Itchy-Depth-5076 Jan 26 '23
Yes! It was eye opening when we could put a name to it. They just may learn differently in some ways. It might come with other common side issues - someone below mentioned ADHD. But writing things down is a secret weapon! (When mine would refuse to get ready to leave, we wrote down a checklist!)
https://chatwithus.org/conditions/hyperlexia/ There's a really great ebook you can find on hyperlexia, from the Center for Speech and Language Disorders - it's also the last referenced work on the link above. Incredibly insightful.
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u/undertales_bitch Jan 26 '23
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u/yaniiiio Jan 26 '23
No one cares but I want to share anyway. I was just like this as a baby/toddler, and enjoyed smaller chapter books at ages 4-6. Now I’m 14 and doing ENG 101 in a college while dual crediting high school! :D
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u/PPvsFC_ Jan 26 '23
Dope. My compadre. Make sure you take care of you mental health along the way. I was you 20 years ago and it's the easiest thing to miss when you're academically precocious.
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u/AyPeeElTee Jan 26 '23
You're awesome and an amazingly hard worker! Life will have it's ups and downs, but you'll always be awesome. Never forget that!
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u/nevadaho Jan 26 '23
That is definitely a precocious baby. In my years teaching and parenting, I’ve only ever come across one other 1.5-2 year old who read. That child is profoundly gifted. It is not a simple “oooh so smart” child - it’s a special situation that parent need to be fully educated on. Lots of intellectual, social emotional implications. It’s a gift and a curse for the child.
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u/ebass Jan 26 '23
He might be gifted but sometimes babies just read early and that's all there is and it never goes further from there.
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u/GodIsKing007 Jan 26 '23
Yup being good at reading doesn’t necessarily mean that good at everything but definitely something to explore rather than ignore
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u/MaskedCommitment Jan 26 '23
Bout time bro gets a day job and starts helping out around the house eh
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u/Anon3567-2 Jan 26 '23
Spending time with our children — we need as a society to prioritize this. I am not directing this at parents, it is all the supporting things society can offer to help make this happen.
Paid time off for fathers after childbirth, doesn’t need to be as long as maternity leave necessarily. ANYTHING would help here.
Normalize getting off work in time to permit parents time with their children on weekdays.
You get the idea. Yes it will be costly to introduce however forward thinking European nations already do this. Their kids and society are both healthier than ours. It works.
My kids are adults now. I would pay more taxes to help our society improve. Think of how much healthier and stronger everyone would be.
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u/Ronniedasaint Jan 26 '23
Those are sight words. He’s not sounding them out. That young man is going places. And he’s handsome to boot!
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u/sprintingTapir Jan 26 '23
Props to the cloth diapers! I wish the general public utilized them more.
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u/GuaranteeAfter Jan 26 '23 •
I thought it was just memory then the baby turns an upside-down card the right way, and then again for the next card.
Maybe my kids are dumbasses :4017: