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u/OtherwiseEggs
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u/MapleTebras Jan 26 '23
Why would anyone call him crazy for doing his utmost to rescue a human being?
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u/jj77985 Jan 26 '23
Maybe because he went back in for the dog, but still that's not crazy, that's fucking outstanding. What a legend.
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u/pancakebatter01 Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 28 '23
That dog had just as much will to live.Doggy paddling like “yeah, where we swimming to?? Let gtfo!”
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u/PastelPersian Jan 26 '23
As you can see in the video, drowning victims will try to unintentionally drown their rescuer. If jumping in the water to save a drowning victim there’s a high chance you’re risking your own life. That could be why.
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u/mjh2901 Jan 26 '23
Welcome to life guard training, first rule do not become the second victim.
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u/FlyingDragoon Jan 26 '23
My favorite part of training was doing all of the practice throws in the diving well. Especially the one where you just drag them down with you causing their brain to hit the panic mode, release and allow you a second approach.
Side note, I remember this one girl in the wave pool and she caused like 3 of us guards initially to have to jump in because she kept pulling people under in her panic to stay afloat causing this awful chain of people trying to drown each other. It was nuts. Manager and like 6 other guards on lunch breaks sprinted out of the backroom and dove in to help, looked like a melee as people were separated and moved to shallower water or a ladder and removed. Never seen anything like it before. Remember: swimming lessons are cheap and well worth the investment..
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u/IndependentHeight685 Jan 26 '23
One well placed punch would have solved that problem
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u/FlyingDragoon Jan 26 '23
Punching without leverage is just going to make you slip and fall off balance. You usually grab them and submerse both of you, they panic and release and you swim around from a different angle. Especially if they manage to headlock you. Remember, you usually have an inflatable tube that can float like 500lbs. As for beach guards...I don't know what they do, I just always worked for pools or water parks in high school.
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u/skynutter Jan 26 '23
Is it an actual strategy? To knock out drowning victims? Lol
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u/IndependentHeight685 Jan 26 '23
Yes it's that or you kick them away and let them drown rather than let them drown you. Here in NZ we have a lot of drownings (19 so far this summer) and it's common for the rescuer to die if untrained.
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u/MrZythum42 Jan 26 '23
Entirely acceptable too to knock out the victim in such case (to safely rescue them)
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u/JelmerMcGee Jan 26 '23
There is a movie with Ashton Kutcher that shows this very well. I can't remember the name right now, but one of the trainees elbows the trainer in the face then pulls the guy to the side of the pool. The trainer congratulates him after.
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u/nekabue Jan 26 '23
It’s been 35 years since I completed lifeguard training, but we were drilled to go under/dive down, surface behind them to resume rescue. A drowning victim will usually let go if they are being pulled down into the water again. They’ll resume flailing for air at the surface.
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u/NeverBakedEnuf Jan 26 '23
She was definitely panicking but i think i remember watching this video with audio and she was telling him to save her dog
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u/zenplasma Jan 26 '23
if this is asia.
a lot of men are strong swimmers and used to teaching children how to swim, so know how to deal with this situation.
and a lot of women also know how to swim.
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u/PhilipLiptonSchrute Jan 26 '23
Because controversial verbiage drives traffic. I'm downvoting this thread for that reason.
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u/DaddyLonglegs73 Jan 26 '23
In case anyone was wondering, this was during the 2016 floods in South Louisiana.
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u/ThatGuyToast Jan 26 '23
Yep I was there for this. Largely devastating because it flooded areas that have never had a flooding problem, some 80% of flooded homes had no flood insurance and lost everything.
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u/Getmaddd Jan 26 '23
Didn't they still get FEMA payouts?
I bet people are building on this land again 🤡 the south loves to build in flood zones.
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u/andrewsmd87 Jan 26 '23
So much this. Half of the town I live in is on a flood plain but one of those once every 1000 years type ones. With climate change I'll be surprised if we don't see a massive flood at some point. We already had a pretty decent one that came into maybe 1/5 of the town closest to the river.
The other half of the town is up on this giant ass hill. Guess my one condition when we bought our house? That it was on that half of town
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u/_jeremybearimy_ Jan 26 '23
I mean, not even all the people who lost homes in Katrina have gotten their FEMA payouts yet. My uncle worked for a nonprofit for years that was helping people with it. And that nonprofit is still doing it.
Katrina was 18 years ago
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u/All_Work_All_Play Jan 26 '23
It's bonkers the amount of bureaucracy you need to go through to get help sometimes. The whole separation of state and federal leads to some shitty hoops, especially when states are charged with carrying out federal programs but the current politicians are actively against such programs. It's astonishing.
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u/_jeremybearimy_ Jan 26 '23
Yup. The sole reason this nonprofit existed was to help people jump through all the hoops required by the bureaucracy. It was an entire team’s full time job. For just one (massive) weather event on one day.And that’s just supplementing what the government agencies are supposed to be doing.
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u/WhatUtalkinBowWirrus Jan 26 '23
Or for the help to not be there at all. I remember being so hungry after we were flooded and lost everything. We didn’t have insurance which my dad kicks himself for down to this day even though it was almost 30 years ago. But we were having to pump every dime into surviving. My mom went and tried to get temp food stamps but they said we made too much. We were middle class but I was 14 and working full time trying to help ends meet and get the house back livable.
I remember being stuck at the house while my parents went to get materials. I couldn’t drive of course, and I was just so hot, hungry and thirsty. Even our well water was contaminated. A Red Cross truck came by with water and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, and I’m here to tell you that sandwich was better than Wagyu 5 or any other delicacy I’ve enjoyed since. I donate my funds and time to disaster relief programs that I’ve vetted (including Red Cross of course) because I saw personally just how much of a difference a helping hand can mean to someone who’s down.
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u/Joshatron121 Jan 27 '23
18 years is excessive don't get me wrong, I am not advocating for that level of bureaucratic bs and people who need help should be able to get it as easily as possible without any real hassle, but without some of those hoops things like the recent abuse we saw with the PPP happen. Two different scenarios I know, but worth remembering that at least some of those things are there for a reason and getting rid of all of it just opens the process up for abuse.
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u/Draft_Punk Jan 26 '23
Man, fuck this comment.
As somebody who spent 18 hours/day for a month tearing out sheet rock and dragging furniture to streets for friends, family, co-workers, and really anyone with a pulse that needed help, your comment is sucks.
You make it sound like FEMA just came in and gave everyone bags of cash and we’re all idiots for continuing to live in an area that flooded once in the last 5,000 years.
People that had insurance didn’t get paid for months or years.
FEMA provided trailers, but that was a nightmare to request/receive/etc for a lot of people in need.
Scammers went wild trying to claim FEMA relief under other people’s names, so thousands had to deal with the bureaucracy of identity theft and verification after having lost their homes.
And for the people that rebuilt, what do you want them to do? Just say “fuck it” and move to Nebraska? It’s easier said than done when your job is here, your family, your friends, etc.
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u/IronBatman Jan 26 '23
This is exactly what bothers me. Sure, government insured homes built in flood zones. But let's make it so that you have to use the money towards a house SOMEWHERE ELSE! And give that flood zone back to nature and turn it into a national park.
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u/DaddyLonglegs73 Jan 26 '23
That sounds good, but if your still paying a mortgage, your mortgage company is going to allow you two options, use the insurance money to pay off the mortgage in full if possible.... or use it to fix the house. So just taking the money and leaving town isn't a viable option most people.
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u/IronBatman Jan 26 '23
Yeah. But it just feels like the biggest waste of tax payer money to fix homes that are definitely going to be flooded again. I would rather they get the money and move.
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u/DaddyLonglegs73 Jan 26 '23
But they won't, once a home floods, if the damages reach a certain threshold, the property goes into an arbitration status. Depending on the flood zone, they may be required to raise the home. If it floods twice, its usually done for.
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u/TrollintheMitten Jan 26 '23
I've read of people who are unable to move but have been flooded at least five times. They need to be able to move away.
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u/WhatUtalkinBowWirrus Jan 26 '23
I realize it’s easy to say folks are clowns for doing so, but until you’ve experienced it, you don’t know for certain what you would do. The fact is, it’s easier to fix a flooded house than it is to go build a new one… Especially when you have no flood insurance and a mortgage on the house already.
Source, was flooded twice in the same home during my teenage years… both of which were supposedly 500 year events. We lived over a mile from the creek that flooded us, and my parents didn’t have flood insurance for the first one as they’d lived there for 20 years by that point and never had water come even close. We did have flood insurance for the second one, but our only option was to rebuild after the first even though it frankly traumatized us to move back into there. Also, insurance will only pay to fix the damage… not a whole new house.
I’m just saying, calling folks a clown for being stuck is over-simplifying it.
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u/DaddyLonglegs73 Jan 26 '23
Why do people in the midwest live in tornado alley? Why do people on the west coast live in areas prone to wildfires, droughts, landslides and earthquakes? Why does anyone anywhere live on a coastline where a hurricane, typhoon or tsunami may hit? People in Colorado are currently living right on top of the largest super volcano known to man... and it could literally blow any minute. I guess its way easier to simply call people clowns for not just moving than it is to realize the situation is very nuanced .... most people live in an area prone to some sort of natural disaster....and alot of them simply do not have the means to uproot thier entire lives and move.
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u/RollTiddyTide Jan 27 '23
All good points. For some reason, reddit just enjoys shitting on the south. Judging millions of people only on where they're from, constantly stereotyping. I guess they don't see the hypocrisy.
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u/ThatGuyToast Jan 26 '23
This is a pretty poor state (which it shouldn't be, but I'm not going to get into that) which means everything here is a lot cheaper. The downside to this is people can't afford to move elsewhere because aside from the cost of moving, wherever they move too will just generally cost more.
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u/QuinceDaPence Jan 26 '23
Didn't they still get FEMA payouts?
Lol, nobody gets those.
I bet people are building on this land again 🤡 the south loves to build in flood zones.
It's Louisianna. It's all flood zone.
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u/buon_natale Jan 26 '23
Many people who lost their homes relocated to higher ground. I live in the affected area, and everyone remembers how tragic this event was and nobody has any desire to repeat it.
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u/zahzensoldier Jan 26 '23
For real though, what's the alternative? Pay these people to relocate so we can gave these parts of the south back to nature?
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u/Getmaddd Jan 26 '23
That would be cheaper in the long run, yes.
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u/zahzensoldier Jan 26 '23
You might be right, but you're literally talking about relocating millions of people.
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u/witchghosti Jan 26 '23
I think that was the one i was there for. It was wild seeing people driving their boats to the highway to go help out in baton rouge. I still remember seeing neighborhood mega dumpsters and hundreds of houses with every piece of furniture and wood flooring out in people's front yards in lafayette. sad times. A lot of people distinguished themselves as selfless heroes who left their homes to venture into danger hoping to help others.
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u/portablebiscuit Jan 26 '23
And in case anyone was wondering about the Miata, it's a sordid tale
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u/tookmyname Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
So the writer says it’s stolen and then says she’s drunk. Then updated the article completely taking back knowing anything about the car being stolen or her being drunk, and posts Facebook post that has zero information whatsoever. I want my 2 minutes back.
What a horrible website btw. Who the fuck goes to that website and doesn’t immediately realize it’s completely trash? They don’t need hits. They need to work for a fast food restaurant, since they complain about people not wanting to work for min wage.
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u/aestheticnoise Jan 26 '23
The Hayride is a known spreader of misinformation. Don’t share their links or god forbid take anything from them as accurate.
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u/LivingAnomoly Jan 26 '23
Nevertheless, the presence of intoxicating liquors would explain the inability to exit a car which is turning into a submarine.
This article is great, thank you!
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As a former Coast Guardsman that's done a bit of search and rescue enough to know how fucking scary this video is for everyone involved, let me tell you that:
A) this guy's a fucking hero, and
B) even if he was also crazy that wouldn't preclude him from committing heroic acts
C) dogs are better than humans and therefore you always save the doggos!!
Being heroic means putting your life in imminent danger in order to help or save another individual with no expectation of reward or benefit for yourself - it's only for the benefit of the other. The action performed is rooted in self-sacrifice in which the amount sacrificed, up to including your own life, is not necessarily completely under your control.
So, in some regards, it actually helps to also be a little crazy. People do not fit into neat little labeled boxes and sit in that box only. A manic depressive can throw themselves on to a stranger to shield them from a shooter's bullets. A hormonal, moody teenager can race down a kidnappers vehicle and save a child's life. A schizophrenic can jump into the path of a train to help a grandma who fell onto the tracks.
I know I'm being a little preachy but I just wanted to make this distinction. A heroic and brave act should not be diminished because the person has a mental illness. Nor should anyone with an illness not be celebrated for being a hero.
Treat people for who they are is all I'm saying - not what we expect them to be. There are more brave, selfless heroes among us than we realize.
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u/wholesomeStrang3r Jan 26 '23
Well said, and thanks for taking time to explain it! And thanks for your service
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u/moosewhippets Jan 26 '23
Thanks!
I volunteered in mental health and suicide prevention for several years. It taught me (in basic terms) "every single person on the planet is fucked up to varying degrees. No one is perfect or has it all figured out. We're all adults with imposter syndrome pretending we know wtf we're doing all the time, and wishing to be "normal".
I'm no different. The VA finally sat me down a few years ago and said "you have adult ADHD". To which I said "fucking duh" lol. My hyperactivity disorder doesn't limit me per se, and I sure as shit aren't defined by it. It takes self awareness to control my spazziness but otherwise it's just another aspect of the many things that make me "me".
Hence why the title rubbed me the wrong way. It isn't "crazy OR hero". It's just hero. That dude may be well adjusted or he may be a paranoid schizophrenic - either way, he still chose to do a very heroic and selfless act. And for that we definitely should celebrate him for what he did.
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u/kypirioth Jan 26 '23
I'd also like to say that as coast guard boat crew we are told to never dive into a sinking ship to rescue someone, but if you do you better come up with the person. You either get a medal for saving someone or in trouble for putting yourself in unnecessary risk
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u/moosewhippets Jan 26 '23
This is exactly correct. Where were/are you stationed? I did SAR as a FN out Morro Bay, CA.
Fun fact: go to the 47 MLB wiki page. I'm in the photo (hard to see me but I'm there)! Actually a good chunk of the MLB photos out there have me in them. A local photographer loved that station and took so many great photos of us training that the CG got them off him to use.
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u/No-Cantaloupe-6535 Jan 26 '23
60 Minutes recently did a piece on "what makes a hero?". There's a doctor who has done CAT scans on some of them and she's found they literally different brains with enlarged amygdalae.
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u/Unvaxxed-n-Proud Jan 26 '23
C) dogs are better than humans and therefore you always save the doggos!!
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u/Interested_Redditor Jan 26 '23
What are we calling her though?
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u/HighFiveKoala Jan 26 '23
Miata owner
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u/Stephen2k8 Jan 26 '23
If I remember the story correctly someone wanted to replace the car and actually found out this woman has stolen it
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u/ajagulay Jan 26 '23
Well that explains why she didn't know how to open the soft convertible top...it's two latches that you open with your hands very easily, no electronics involved.
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u/dotardiscer Jan 26 '23
When panic sets in even the obvious doesn't phase you. It's why we have fire and tornado drills, so if it happens you just react on instinct.
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u/notlikethis_wokege Jan 26 '23
She was sinking so slowly that they had time to drive a very slow boat over to her. If it was her car, she'd know to flip two latches and climb out.
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u/Someguywhomakething Jan 26 '23
Were the doors not working either?
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u/TrollintheMitten Jan 26 '23
With the literal tons of water pressure holding them shut? No, no they were not working.
You'd have to roll down the window to let water in before the pressure could equalize. Then you'd be underwater in a car. Better hope it's crank down windows not powered ones; otherwise they may short out and you'd just have to sit in the car till it fills with water coming in through the vents before you can open a door. Let's hope there's no debris around the car when it sinks either, or the doors will be blocks from opening then.
It's a nightmare scenario.
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u/1202_ProgramAlarm Jan 26 '23
Hear me out: open the door before it's underwater. OR if you just plain don't want to do that, open the window and go out through that.
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u/TrollintheMitten Jan 26 '23
There's always not getting into the flood in the first place, yeah that would be my personal choice to if it was an option.
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u/pantiesdrawer Jan 27 '23
Nah, it wasn't stolen. It just wasn't her car. Belonged to her bf, and she had permission to take it out.
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u/Halo_Chief117 Jan 26 '23
Stupid? Yeah, definitely that. I mean, c’mon. That amount of water just doesn’t appear immediately out of nowhere when you’re driving.
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u/oscar-the-bud Jan 26 '23
Michael Scott.
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u/TheRiteGuy Jan 26 '23
Dumbass! From what I understand, people didn't heed the warnings, and ignored evacuation orders. Then, she decided to drive in the damn flood.
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u/TheRussness Jan 27 '23
This bish is so dumb
Audience "how dumb did she?"
This bish is so dumb she got trapped in a convertible.
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u/solareclipse999 Jan 26 '23
He clung onto her as the car began to go under. He did not give up. Human super hero.
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u/Pinemango600 Jan 26 '23
f I'm the chat for miat
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u/itsmyfrigginusername Jan 26 '23
Got it done, inspiring to be sure. But had he been familiar with the gen 1 Mazda mx-5 Miata, he would have known to just look at the rear window in a slightly unpleasant way. It would have immediately dissolved and freed the victims post haste.
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u/Plus3radspersecond Jan 26 '23
Oh hell nah not the Miata
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u/Credulous_Cromite Jan 26 '23
She should have got an NC
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u/ultratunaman Jan 26 '23
All I could think of.
The poor MX5. Gone off to the big gymkhana in the sky.
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u/NoThanksReddit13 Jan 26 '23
Panic and emotions mess with your mental capacity. Maybe the car was fairly new to her or borrowed, maybe she couldn't think straight, maybe she still had her seatbelt on and couldn't reach the passenger side top latch but, there are two latches above her head that are easy to pop open. Especially on an early 1990-1997 Miata like this one, like many 1999-2005 Miata, the lock button that holds the latch lever is worn and barely holds the latches closed. Many are only held closed by the sun visor. I can work my latches one handed with excellent condition, perfectly working latch locks. If only she had popped them open as soon as she realized she was in trouble, the top would have easily folded back to free her and the dog BEFORE the car was submerged.
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u/BabyAlibi Jan 26 '23
I can't find a source just now, but I seem to remember from previous posts that she was drunk (I might be wrong)
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u/Sentinel13M Jan 26 '23
"Get my dog now" - I know she is panicked, but.... this rubs me the wrong way.
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u/Eastern-Historian-28 Jan 27 '23
I love dogs, but the fact that she also pushed him under the water to save her dog just makes me angry
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u/shigella212 Jan 26 '23
Legend has it that guy could have also saved Miata had his balls been a bit lighter
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u/Azure_Eiyu Jan 26 '23
Props to the guys who did the rescue. I remember this happening, as I was one of the people affected by this flood.
It turned out that the driver of this vehicle actually stole the car. That's not to say that she didn't deserve to be rescued from a horrible fate like drowning, but it does make you think. I hope she changed her ways after this experience.
https://thehayride.com/2016/08/turns-out-the-famous-sinking-miata-was-stolen/
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u/BDOKlem Jan 26 '23
alright, I'm a grown man and him going back for the pup brings a tear to my eye ngl
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u/WhoDat_Sa3VuS Jan 26 '23
Just a guess but, she is an idiot. Stupidity got her in that situation.
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u/AdComprehensive6588 Jan 26 '23
A man is only crazy or an idiot if what he’s doing doesn’t work.
This worked.
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u/RealMudflapper Jan 26 '23
Nope. Idiots get lucky all the time.
This guy wasn’t crazy though, just a legit hero.
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u/ByeFeliciana Jan 26 '23
This happened near me. She was drunk. She endangered all these people's lives.
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u/RedditorsAnus Jan 26 '23
Wasn't this just posted the other day with the exact same title and the comments all discussed the same thing about the guy not being crazy but a hero?
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u/Superblond Jan 26 '23
"crazy"?! No never ever call him that! He's a true f#cking hero!!!