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u/perrywclifton
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Boston Crusaders drumline throwing down in Indianapolis.
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u/SignalTrip1504 Jan 26 '23
I hope we have progress far enough were these guys are consider the jocks now and not just the band geeks, these college kids are talented af
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
Oh trust me, everyone still gets called band geeks
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u/DaniK094 Jan 27 '23
I will forever be a band geek and I'm 100% proud of it. Best years of my life.
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u/VictoryAviation Jan 26 '23
These aren’t just college kids. There are some pretty young performers that aren’t even in college yet out there killing it. The level of musicianship and athleticism required for DCI is mind blowing.
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u/hijole_frijoles Jan 26 '23
Just fyi this isn’t a college drumline. It’s an independent organization part of DCI, which u have to pay to participate in
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u/Kdog9999999999 Jan 26 '23
To be fair, people loved the battery! At least in my high school, we were about the only "band geeks" that were openly accepted.
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u/Happy-Temporary-3600 Jan 27 '23
Not to mention that each of the snares are about 25 pounds each and those tenors and the lowest bass is like 50
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u/ultimateVinpix Jan 26 '23
As someone who was in a competitive marching band in high-school, everyone complaining about Dr. Beat is heartbreaking. That thing is just a guide to make sure you're on time during pratice.
This looks like an amazing show. I hope they did well.
GO BAND AND TAKE THE FIELD IN COMPITITION!
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
They tied with Bluecoats for second at DCI this year. Was hoping they’d win but what can you do?
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u/C-W0LF Jan 26 '23
How did the devils win anyways? I saw a few blatantly misaligned blocks in their show whereas the crusaders were crystal clear, I just don't get it
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
Impeccable musicianship. Also the forms were much cleaner from the front, where the visual judges are
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u/C-W0LF Jan 26 '23
I just don't understand how there can be visible dirt on a show in finals that still wins. It makes me wonder how much of the devils' success is based on reputation rather than performance. Imo it was boring and basic with a few impressive sets filled in between with cluster sets that can't be checked for alignment.
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u/ColorMeTickled Jan 26 '23
Haha! What a bunch of nerds!
Sobs from lack of achievement (This is actually really rad.)
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u/flatwoundsounds Jan 27 '23
I love calling my band students nerds. They always seem offended at first until they realize I'm saying they're one of the cool band geeks who's in this special little club now.
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u/181814 Jan 26 '23
The metronome ruins it all i can focus on is the beeps
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u/TangyBoi3 Jan 27 '23
you can tell exactly who doesnt play an instrument from any mention of a met
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u/mars935 Jan 27 '23
I've played trumpet for 11 years now and I still found it really annoying here
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u/TangyBoi3 Jan 28 '23
they're outside, it kinda has to be noticable, must be a marching band thing ig
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u/vizirjenkins Jan 26 '23
BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
We actually say bink bink bink bink bink
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u/killfriendlly Jan 26 '23 •
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No we dut dut dut dut.
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u/Solonotix Jan 26 '23
In my high school years, one of our drum instructors was a former Boston Crusader. I still use his drum warmups he gave us. While the Blue Devils and Cavaliers were my favorites, Boston Crusaders were up there, typically ranking Top 5 at DCI.
I never made it to that level, but seeing these guys takes me back to a time when I had dreams of being a professional musician. While I much prefer my cushy developer job and lifestyle, the nostalgia still hits me hard
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u/Kdog9999999999 Jan 26 '23
My school funneled pretty much everyone into the Devils. We had a Devil, Cavalier, and Phantom training us, it was an awesome team.
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u/breetome Jan 26 '23
Very cool! Thanks for sharing this. Who doesn’t love the drum line!
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
Of course. Drum corps in general needs to be exposed to a bigger audience lol
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u/breetome Jan 26 '23
They definitely have some serious ass skills! Fun to watch and love the sounds.
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u/Nat20downcliff Jan 26 '23
For all the people wondering about the metronome, this is just one of their warm-ups, it's a practice tool used to help make sure that everyone is staying in time and tempo
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u/passivearl Jan 27 '23
That was a cool video, but came to the comments for this lol I wonder if this movie is as timeless as I remember, gotta go watch it now
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u/SaintJimmy1 Jan 26 '23
Was not expecting to randomly spot a guy I played jazz with in high school lmao that’s crazy.
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u/SecretaryTypical Jan 26 '23
I appreciate the diversity of people drawn to the same interest here. Music is an amazing thing.
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u/vAmoureuxx Jan 27 '23
We actually only had two members from boston this season. Most members are from texas!
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u/Victor_Korchnoi Jan 27 '23
Wait what? How does that work? Do you guys not practice together?
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u/vAmoureuxx Jan 27 '23
We have monthly camps in Texas, and then in late may we all move in to a college in Vermont to have spring training, rehearsal 12 hours a day for about a month, and then we leave for tour.
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u/Wizard_Hatz Jan 26 '23
Bruh when did this happen and what part of Indy?
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
DCI World Championships, held every August at Lucas Oil Stadium. This was just one drumline warming up out of over 30 other competing groups
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u/Wizard_Hatz Jan 26 '23
Awesome might check it out this year!
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
Well worth it. Tickets go fast tho so it’s probably best to get them ASAP haha
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u/VictoryAviation Jan 26 '23
When do the finals tickets go on sale? I haven’t been keeping up with it.
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
They’ve been on sale for a bit I think
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u/VictoryAviation Jan 26 '23
Oooooffff going to check right now. I took my parents to see the finals in 2018. My dad is a retired band teacher. We’re both professional musicians (Army band for both of us as well). It was freaking fantastic. I’d seen many regionals throughout the years but not finals. I definitely want to go again.
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u/VictoryAviation Jan 26 '23
It’s waaaaay worth it. Seeing the finals live is so much more immersive than watching it even on the biggest OLED flat screen with huge speakers. It’s just better in person.
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u/Easy-Constant-5887 Jan 27 '23
Attending these warm-ups at Military Park is also entirely free! You can spend all afternoon/evening watching all of the different drumlines and brass sections warm up.
100% worth it whether you get a ticket or not
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u/colormecryptic Jan 26 '23
This is a stupid question but I’m genuinely curious, if anyone knows. Why do the snare drum players hold the two sticks differently?
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
It’s called traditional grip. Holdover from when slings were used to carry snare drums and they would tilt to the right. Holding the left stick like that made it a lot easier to play with that hand. It just carried through to modern times. Some groups still tilt their snares to the right for this reason but most don’t.
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u/colormecryptic Jan 26 '23
Ah thats so cool thanks! Is there any difference in ability or coordination in the two hands based on the different grips?
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
Only real difference is source of rotation, for the right hand the wrist moves up and down and for the left it twists. It feels very natural once used to it
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u/b4d_vibr4tions Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 27 '23
Hearing that metronome caused some flashbacks to high school drum line/marching band, dear lord. I miss my bass line. That shit was fun.
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u/IndependentPound2679 Jan 26 '23
My volume is muted, so I'm not actually hearing it, but those costumes are lit 🔥🔥🔥
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
Check out Bluecoats’ uniform design last year, it was craaazy
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u/dizdawgjr34 Jan 26 '23
Those were probably my least favorite uniforms of theirs in a while tbh. I loved the uniforms in their 2019 show, looks cool up close and the blue really pops off the field when watching from the box.
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u/DCIpenguin Jan 27 '23 edited Jan 27 '23
"This is cool, but why are the beeps happening?"
This is just the warmup, they're getting ready for the full show inside Lucas Oil. The metronome (beeps) are for checking their "tempo maintenance"; is everyone approaching the music at the same pace, over the extended periods of time? The instructor (unseen) will help fine-tune throughout this process. There are no 'beeps' in the actual performance. This is like people hanging out before an NFL game watching the QB bomb 60-yarders like a madman, or watching NBA players "warm up" with half-court shots and actually make it.
"Why are there so many people?"
This is just the warmup, it's free for anyone that comes to the park, and this video is from Finals Day; the last performance of the season, no matter what. Lots of people make a trip out of it so they can see it live with about 20,000 other people.
"Why does it feel like there's empty space sometimes in the music?"
This is only part of the ensemble, there's about 90 musicians and 40 dancers/gymnasts/colorguard who aren't there, because this is just the warm up baby
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u/itsgabrielsimao Jan 26 '23
Those guys should also receive scholarships and special “athlete” treatment.
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u/darkmoose Jan 26 '23
Crusaders? Good luck going to the holy land armed only with drums and sticks...
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u/UniBlak Jan 26 '23
They used to be called the most precious blood crusaders lol, they were attached to the Catholic Church at one point
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u/gjcij2203 Jan 27 '23
So as an old ass football player that drum sound is forever tied to the pregame run out. Listening to this makes me want to run through a wall! The field entrance made you want to kill someone. You would get periodic drum riffs during the game and it was like a subconscious booster.
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u/princess_clitorina Jan 26 '23
GodDAMN they're good! Always loved watching DCI. This makes me miss marching band so much! There's nothing like that feeling of anticipation as you're warming up or lining up on the field. Good times ❤
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u/Remarkable-Log-4495 Jan 27 '23
That was awesome but that one guy is definitely 8 feet/2.4m tall.
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u/JohnDoee94 Jan 26 '23
Funny how this type of thing started as something to intimidate enemies as you marched towards them with now being associated with the nerds of the school.
I think it’s badass.
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u/OkAdvice2329 Jan 26 '23
For those not in the know. Using a metronome is the standard for pretty much all groups from high school to college and independent when rehearsing “in the lot”.
Also those bass splits were crispy as hell.
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u/Littlened Jan 27 '23
Total UK question here, but did this kind of drumming originate in the US? I dont feel it’s something I’ve ever seen anywhere else
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u/solvitNOW Jan 27 '23
This high level stuff is a professional circuit called DCI that operates in the US and Canada and started in 1971.
This is the peak of John Phillips Sousa style marching bands, which pretty much every high school in America with more than 30-40 per class has and almost all universities have.
A lot of university band members do DCI in the summers if they can get in to one (it’s not easy, they are the best of the best).
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u/activatetheroombas Jan 27 '23
it stems from military bands, once they stopped being really necessary in battles they became a way to keep young kids off the streets and it just sort of evolved over the decades
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u/PercussionistsUnite Jan 27 '23 edited Jan 27 '23
Hey, this is a very brief overview, but basically, veteran organizations such as the Veterans of Foreign Wars and the American Legion started sponsoring local drum and bugle corps after World War I. (Other organizations such as the Boy Scouts or Police Clubs also took after these veteran groups.) Such corps could be senior corps of all ages or junior corps consisting of youths aged 21 and below. At one point, there were thousands of such corps across the country and in Canada (where it had spread). The VFW and AL started holding competitions based on technical achievement where one would compete in regional to state to national competitions.
However, some drum corps (being at heart, a musical and visual medium) wanted more creative and financial freedom. So Drum Corps Associates (for senior corps) in 1963, followed by Drum Corps International about a decade later (for junior corps), were formed. Now despite the names, these were really only limited to North American groups, although DCI maintains a sparsely populated International Class with slightly different rules. Like with anything those Americans do, Japan caught on, and Drum Corps Japan was formed in 1994. Europe caught on to it too, in the Netherlands specifically where Drum Corps Europe was founded. It's not hugely popular in Europe where a very strong military band tradition had already existed (e.g., British-style brass bands or pipe bands), but there are still some great corps there.
Basically, corps were founded as a patriotic activity for the community and evolved to become the theatrical spectacles we know today (influencing high school and college marching bands as a result). Drum corps is also popular in Japan and moderately in Europe, but it obviously will not compare to where it was formed.
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u/woofridgerator Jan 27 '23
Me, watching this as a drummer feeling like this must be what it’s like when basketball players watch nba.
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u/Technoducktv Jan 26 '23
I watched this live, I was apart of dci impact, never did it before and was my last year to actually play in the band, gonna try to become a mentor for it next time
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u/noseysfriend Jan 26 '23
Atleast they let girls in the drum line now!
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u/perrywclifton Jan 26 '23
They have for decades now actually, although I do agree it should be a lot more common
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u/TheBlackJewFromTexas Jan 26 '23
If my highschool marching band dressed like this I definitely would have done it.
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u/Serious_XM Jan 26 '23
Shoulda got 2nd in drums instead of 4th 🥲
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u/sk3tchy_streaming Jan 27 '23
It’s the front ensemble that killed them. If you listened to the bluecoats percussion only show, it’s nuts
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u/joeycnotes Jan 26 '23
roll stepping sideways with no peripheral vision! the hoodies look dope tho…
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u/Madcowgrim Jan 27 '23
People that don't like the metronome aren't musicians and don't understand the importance, or even the amazing job they did when played with that click. The click literally helps you non litterale musical people understand what is going on
I also recommend any person interested in this, to look I to DCI (drum corps international) it is a great program for extremely talented , hard working college age kids
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u/dlimerick Jan 27 '23
Love those Skyrim thieves guild outfits. Whelp, off to go pick some pockets, maybe lift a drum, lute and a flute… start my own band. “We drink too our youth, to the days come and gone…”
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u/SnooChickens961 Jan 27 '23
The fact that they all keep their heads up and not on the drums or where they are stepping makes it all the more impressive.
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u/RedditVince Jan 27 '23
Man , I miss the corps...
Aged out and moved on with life.
It was an awesome experience!
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u/_matt_hues Jan 27 '23
Clean! I wasn’t sure if this was going to be another sloppy but flashy performance like you so often see get posted online.
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u/funzarella Jan 27 '23
This is so badass! Yall should check out drumcorpscoffeeshop on Insta. Makes me wish I had kept up with my music that's for sure!
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u/Sweet-Calendar-412 Jan 27 '23
i mean cool and good technical drumming, but i don't think any style can compete with Brazillian Batucada... this was way too boring and it doesn't really make you want to dance.
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u/mrrapacz Jan 27 '23
click track? back in my day the only click track was the drum major cursing in your ear.
j/k. tho I was in drumline in 1996. tried out for snare, quads, and bass drum. got the cymbals because I rocked too hard.
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u/Craft_beer_wolfman Jan 26 '23
Check out the Top Secret Drum Corps. They are awesome.
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u/twonha Jan 26 '23
I played the snare drum in a marching band for years, and totally geeked out on Top Secret Drum Corps when their Basel (and/or Edinburgh?) performance went viral. Might've been something like 2005.
That was awesome.
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u/curzon394x Jan 26 '23
Why all so solemn? Drumming is serious business I guess eh?
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u/EndingDragon159 Jan 27 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
not sure if you were actually wanting to know or not, but this was their warmups for the last performance of the season. these guys (and everyone else competing there) had all just been through about 2-3 months away from home on tour and it was the final performance. they placed 2nd.
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u/MrMooey12 Jan 26 '23
God I love Boston, and seeing marching band get recognition makes me so happy
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u/Hung_Hefty_Parsnip Jan 27 '23
One of them looks exactly like my friend that shot himself a couple years ago. RIP
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u/StringUseful3395 Jan 26 '23
Kind of disappointed by the constant metronome