r/nextfuckinglevel • u/[deleted] • Jan 26 '23
Glasses to check the electronic wiring of aircraft Removed: Repost
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u/BabyMando Jan 26 '23
Can they make one so I can see all the studs in my home?
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Jan 26 '23
It's not really seeing the wiring. Most likely it's AR.
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u/trikytrev8 Jan 26 '23
That was my first guess that it was superimposed and not actual wire locations
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Jan 26 '23
The locations are probably accurate
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u/trikytrev8 Jan 26 '23
As a technician, I know if I have to drill somewhere for modifications I have to know where those wires are. Exactly where it sits. I saw one of these AR glasses for building engineers and know what happens when you hammer drill through concrete where a power wire is or a water pipe. We cannot rely on probably.
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u/spovax Jan 26 '23
The precision in a military aircraft and building construction are clearly different. You seem to be tagging on this idea as it doesn’t work for your specific use. A use they it wasn’t designed for.
It’s easy to poke at other ideas and solutions. Clearly a helicopter and building are different.
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u/trikytrev8 Jan 26 '23
A quick read proved that this is just for training or off site expert advice on troubleshooting and repair. There is no way a technician can use this except for technical support.
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u/spovax Jan 26 '23
Not trying to be an ass, but I struggle to see your response relation to my comment. Are you saying your first comment was off base? It’s not clear to me.
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u/trikytrev8 Jan 26 '23
Yes construction is different. The AR is the same. It takes technical drawings and superimposes them onto an actual structure. Bridges, parking garages, F-16s, and even missiles. I'm basically saying that it can only be used as support. I'm sure you cannot reach in the belly of a modern aircraft and only use the glasses to see which wire has trace voltage drain. I do belive one day it will but everything I have read so far is that glasses like this are AR and only used as support and not a replacement for actual technical diagnosis.
Sorry you caught me while I was agitated and wasn't forming a well thought out response. This is why I don't usually debate.
Don't get me wrong this is cool and amazing but it is yet to be a replacement for technical analysis of a problem.
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u/AstroEngineer314 Jan 27 '23
Buildings are not aircraft. I know that's completely obvious, but what I'm trying to say is that aircraft are built to very tight tolerances, built EXACTLY to the plans, and each one isn't different from every other. Obviously the positions of wires aren't controlled as much as features on a machined part, but it's probably within 1/8 inch of where it needs to be. That's done by having already pre-drilled mounting holes done by a robot/CNC, or custom jigs.
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u/InformationNo695 Jan 26 '23
I bought mine 60 years ago from an ad in the back of a Superman comic.
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u/Sparrow1989 Jan 26 '23
With some kind of thermal dynamic thingy. VR plus Thermal Goggles = I don’t know wtf I’m talking about.
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u/bullybullybully Jan 27 '23
Yeah… and from the AR sets I saw at CES I would wait a few years before trusting the tech with anything critical.
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u/LostInThought2021 Jan 27 '23
Whenever I want to see all the studs in my home, I take a look in the mirror. Boom 😎.
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u/hyteck9 Jan 26 '23
It's an AR overlay using the hololens.
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u/jeerabiscuit Jan 26 '23
Too bad the entire hololens team got laid off. People are technologically backward.
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u/PGnautz Jan 26 '23
Was it? I only read "fired entire teams", not "fired the entire team"
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u/BoBoBearDev Jan 27 '23
No, it wasn't true at all.
The open source mix reality team and the ugly miis looking people social app team are completely laid off. The open source mix reality is like 20 people only to begin with.
There are some layoffs from the HoloLens team, but, the team is still large. So far they seem to be mainly to support the military applications, so, a lot of casual related development are let go. And based on the report, the military is hopeful, meaning, the money is there with no competitors.
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u/HowDoIDoFinances Jan 27 '23
It was a pretty enormous hit to their AR and VR efforts, including the team that led the efforts to standardize and accelerate mixed reality interfaces.
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u/Icy_Warthog2061 Jan 26 '23
Never before in my life did I realize how attracted I am to fit and muscular women!
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Jan 26 '23
Nothing new here. I bought mine 60 years ago from an ad in the back of a Superman comic.
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u/Ok_Yak_5776 Jan 26 '23
Could I borrow them so I can see my sea monkeys I bought from the same comic?
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u/beth_at_home Jan 26 '23
Can I watch?
I could never afford that stuff, but since I'm a middle child I'm not used to touching things.
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u/Free-Concert-770 Jan 26 '23
Right after sand got kicked in my face
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Jan 26 '23
I actually sent in for a Charles Atlas course. After my initial letter I received the offer. It was higher than I could afford, so I didn't reply.
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u/Garyullo Jan 26 '23
It "sees" the wiring or simply projects the layouts on the screen?
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u/gata1323 Jan 26 '23
It looks like it shows where the wiring WOULD/Should be in a standard assembly, not where the circuits actually are. That would be wild.
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u/SipthatTing Jan 26 '23
Yeah I was going to say, this is really cool but they're going to find out very quickly a lot of this stuff deviates from spec.
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u/AstroEngineer314 Jan 27 '23
Maybe for buildings but not for aircraft. Everything is within spec. And that spec probably places the wire to tolerance of an eighth of an inch. That's done by having mounting holes already pre-drilled by robots or CNC, or having custom jigs.
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u/funkwumasta Jan 26 '23
How about this. Cameras mounted strategically inside the compartments that can 3d scan the entire space from multiple angles on demand or in real time. sends the signal to a processor then gets transmitted to the glasses. Maybe some special coating on wires to make them emit some spectrum that the cameras can easily see in the dark.
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u/OptimusSublime Jan 26 '23
It's a 3D mockup of the final assembly. It's not seeing anything. It's to help the technicians know where the wire harnesses are supposed to go.
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u/eegocentrik Jan 26 '23
What are they "checking"?
It's just a wiring map overlay.
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u/Scuirre1 Jan 26 '23
Maybe it could be used as a reference? Check the real thing against the schematic.
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u/fuckdispandashit Jan 26 '23
Asking for a friend…. Do they work with clothing
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u/AstroEngineer314 Jan 27 '23
No, unless you already have a 3D model of the person underneath. Sorry to burst your bubble
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u/Inevitable-Ear-3189 Jan 26 '23
Lieutenant Commander La Forge, when you're finished in the shuttle bay, report to engineering.
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Jan 27 '23
What he said: "You're able to see everything in the entire aircraft."
What he meant: "You're able to pre-viz everything in the entire aircraft as it should be... granted that the AR overlay is displaying properly and everything was wired exactly this way when it was put together."
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u/Perfect-Engineer3226 Jan 26 '23
If they haven't already the Air Force will be picking these up
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u/EelTeamNine Jan 26 '23
That's a military helicopter...
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u/Perfect-Engineer3226 Jan 26 '23
And? Do you think the AirForce doesn't have helicopters?
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u/EelTeamNine Jan 26 '23
I'm saying they're already trialing them if they wanted them by the looks of the video.
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u/BTBU Jan 26 '23
Fun fact, the US Air Force has the second largest amount of aircraft in a single organization in the world. The only organization above them is the US Army due to the overwhelming amount of helicopters they have.
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u/I_am_Shadow Jan 26 '23
We were looking into something like these years ago in the B1 program. I don't think the tech was quite there yet, so we didn't pursue them. That said, I wish I had something like this way back when I was still a maintainer.
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u/Far_Natural_5887 Jan 26 '23
Lol me being an electrician that is useless haha unless a wire is burnt up what’s the point of this ? Your looking at a picture that doesn’t tell you about the electeical circuit etc.
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u/Muffassa Jan 26 '23
These would have been very useful 20 years ago when I was a helicopter electrician in the Army 20 years ago.
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Jan 26 '23
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u/AstroEngineer314 Jan 27 '23
I don't see any in the windshields. In the doors and cockpit, yes, but not the 'glass' (actually polycarbonate)
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u/DearHoney4941 Jan 26 '23
This can’t be real, I was Helicopter mech for over 10 years, Ch-53E and Oh-58Di. I’ve been out of the field since 2007. If that shit is real ,,omfg !!!!!! I want a pair so incredibly bad
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u/Sixhaunt Jan 27 '23
it's real just misleading by the title. The only thing they can "check" is where the wire should be. They arent seeing the actual wires or electrical for the specific aircraft, just an AR overlay of where it should be based on their 3d model interpretation. So I doubt it would be much use in repairing the machine since it cant detect any issues with it, but it's cool for learning about it. It's usually designed as more of an educational thing
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u/bemitty Jan 26 '23
Plus… when their battery dies you can just shout: “My eyes! The goggles do nothing!”
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u/thundafox Jan 26 '23
isn't this information , you know, confidential in military aircrafts? so by showing this he can get a verdict in treason?
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u/zeb0777 Jan 26 '23
This is Augmented Reality, not really actively seeing through the airframe to see the internals, just an overlay of where they should be.
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u/Feeling_Glonky69 Jan 26 '23
Maintenance and construction- the real reason why AR will be a thing in the distant future
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u/BoBoBearDev Jan 27 '23
This one particular HoloLens has surprisingly large FOV. I tried one in Honda car show, and the FOV is so damn tiny. And the v2 doesn't sound as large as this. This one is huge.
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u/outsidepointofvi3w Jan 27 '23
They have small hand held F.L.I.R unit you attach to your phone. They are used in a similar way. Factory floors in production and other machinery. When you see a part or wire that getting worn or overloading..Being that friction and current create heat. You can schedule repair and fix things before they break and shut down the line or the failure causes larger breaks and malfunctions. These glasses are amazing and I have no clue how they work. Does anyone have a brand or name for these ?
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u/unionize_reddit_mods Jan 26 '23
Healthcare plz
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u/Meadaga Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 26 '23
This is a print overlay. It doesn't actually "see" anything.
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u/Portrait_Robot Jan 27 '23
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