r/unpopularopinion • u/Aventador12123 • 7d ago
Single player is better than online multiplayer.
Games such as Red Dead Redemption 2, God of War, the Uncharted Franchise, The Last of Us (can include 2 if you want), the GTA franchise and many others support my point. They offer hundreds of hours of playability only from the single player modes thanks to rich open world's, rich narrative and great replay value. I have had Red Dead Redemption since launch day and still play it frequently to this day.
Now in some cases online multiplayer is fine but not in recent times. Take GTA online for example. In 2013 it was good but with the new updates and expansions it's not short of being unplayable with players flying across the maps and shooting you every time you spawn. Another issue is modders and tryhards who do their UTMOST best to ruin your and your friends game. I cannot walk in warzone without being sniped from the other side of the map or encountering campers. Single player is also more stable thanks to not requiring an internet connection and thus allows even people in Somalia to play without interruption. Also people are more peaceful as nobody in single player shouts or sings into a mic whilst you're playing. Believe me, we could all use some peace.
Lastly I would like to say this does not apply to all online games, but most. I'm not sure if this has been done before so if it has pls say and I'll delete.
Edit: some people are talking about co-op modes with friends. Co-op is great and I play it myself but playing with randoms is not so great most of the time as mentioned above. Co-op satisfies those who want story as well as those who want a social aspect in their games without the cons that associate with playing with randoms.
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u/DarkElfMagic 7d ago
I wouldn’t call it unpopular, plenty of people criticize the fuck out of rockstar
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u/Butterfriedbacon 7d ago
Rockstar, the creators of mass single player hits such as Red Dead Redemption 2?
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u/DarkElfMagic 7d ago
Yes, but specifically they criticize how Rockstar continues to focus on Multiplayer instead of making single player content
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u/FigureOfStickman 6d ago
imo the games are amazing but their multiplayer is fucking killing me. it's too obvious that it's built around in app purchases
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u/IsLikeMy96thAccount 7d ago
For sure, especially in these days where everyone and their grandma wants to break into esports.
I miss old counter strike, where people would just have fun man
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u/OmgOgan 6d ago
I tried to get back into DotA after taking a few years away. Oh man. Had a guy tell me to stay away from unranked games and go play, "at least 500 bot matches". I laughed at him.
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u/Mons00n_909 6d ago
So nothing's changed in DotA then? I've been getting flamed by 12 year olds in DotA for well over a decade now.
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u/Romestus 6d ago
Yeah before every game added matchmaking features you could just load up your favorite community server, hang out with your friends, and have fun for hours with no pressure.
Now every game, even on modes where it makes no sense, has matchmaking instead of a server browser.
- Can't choose the map
- Can't choose the ping
- Can't play against your friends since the only way to play with them is to party which puts them on your team
- Can't swap teams to balance them out
- Have to wait for "warmup" periods and watch end-game award ceremonies when all you want to do is play the damn game.
- You finish a 15 minute round on a server playing with random strangers only to require another 3-5 minutes of your time queueing for another match instead of just jumping into the nextmap or a new server with ease
Then you have the toxicity issues that stem from being stuck in a powder keg environment with strangers for however long the match is with leaver penalties and a playerbase absolutely obsessed with a rating number. Can't go off-meta, that would be an absolute sin.
But psychologists figured out that people will spend more time playing skinner's boxes where not every match is guaranteed to be enjoyable so that's how these games will be designed going forward. Which then lets them make more money off their other skinner's boxes in the form of loot crates and item drops.
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u/_Bill_Huggins_ 6d ago
Wow, that is totally what is missing from MP these days. Back in the early 2000s I would join the same game servers and I recognized the usual players, even though I did not know them IRL it was still awesome to play with the same players. You knew their strengths and weaknesses. You could test yourself against the best of them, and just shoot the shit. I would bring some IRL friends into the servers too, then they became regulars.
It's so impersonal now.
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u/urru4 6d ago
I got really sad when I noticed in Cold War that COD had removed lobbies. It was nice to play several games with the same people, and change lobby if you wanted to. Now it’s just too competitive for my liking
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u/bionicle1995 6d ago
That change was made in modern warfare 2019, but yeah cold war continued it.
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u/urru4 6d ago
Didn’t play MW, played Cold War for the free week only and didn’t really like how I could be in a more chill lobby and instantly be put with 4 sweats on the enemy team
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u/StevieWonderTwin 6d ago
Yea, Halo 2 had a cool system where you would be matched with the team you just played against unless they quit out in the ~20 seconds between matches. You could have rematches with teams where the games were close - and everyone wore mics then and parties didn't exist so there would be some shit-talking in those lobbies. Fun stuff, felt way more social then.
I actually made friends with online strangers back then, we would talk and stuff. Can't imagine that happening these days, everyone's in a party, it's a barren wasteland of silence.
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u/TastyTater44 7d ago
I 100% agree. The only downside of singleplayer is that it can feel lonely
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u/Masterdeetectiv 7d ago
There are so many bot friends tho
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u/left_at_read 7d ago
Micah agrees.
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u/GoogleCensorsAreBad 7d ago
ಠ╭╮ಠ Don’t even mention him.
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u/[deleted] 6d ago
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u/NommedByCake 6d ago
He's a character in RDR2. If you want to spoil yourself and find out why people hate him so much, feel free to look him up on google
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u/knightrider334 7d ago
Sometimes it does. But if you get a game with a great storyline you're gonna get so engrossed in it that loneliness wouldn't matter as much.
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u/Butterfriedbacon 7d ago
I'd rather talk to random NPCs any day over cumbustershitnutsinyourmom_10
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u/act167641 7d ago
All my friends are NPCs.
Actually, somebody needs to write a song about that.
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u/Frostyuwusnowman 7d ago
Some people barely get lonely though (me). So there’s no downside
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u/mydadpickshisnose 6d ago
And for console studios and Devs have basically given up on doing GOOD and immersive storylines and play and instead focusing on the online multiplayer aspect.
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u/s4d5m0k3_420 7d ago
multiplayer is lonely too, no one want to play with me but I enjoy the sweat fest tbh
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u/scottishere 6d ago
There were times when playing WoW where I felt lonely af. Weird feeling
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u/AmIARealPerson 7d ago edited 7d ago
This is the main reason I play multiplayer games—for the social aspect. I love single player games, but when I’m feeling lonely, knowing everyone I’m talking to isn’t real makes me feel even more alone
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u/t1kiman 6d ago
That's why I prefer single player...because I want to be alone, not caring about anything or anyone.
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u/Unusual-Menu-8179 6d ago
im the same. Video games are a way for me to tune out the rest of the world and have "me time" -- multiplayer is just the added stress of having to deal with another person or team dynamic
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u/MRMakkink 6d ago
Username checks out. Never thought about it like that... guess I'm just so into the story/world when I play that I forget that lol.
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u/MrDrProfesorPatrick 6d ago
I almost never have a mic on during multi-player, so I still never get to talk to other people.
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u/SF_Gigante 7d ago
And you can only play the same game for so long. The addition of friends to online games makes them so much more replayable because you can just fuck around with your friends. But with that being said, it’s 100% dependent on the game. Some multiplayer games are substantially worse than single player games and some single player games are significantly worse than multiplayer games. I play both and have fun with both so to me it just depends.
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u/Mr_Pletz 6d ago
I wish more games had the Dark Souls type of multiplayer. Essentially allowing you to opt in to inviting others into your single player experience.
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u/LargeCanine420 6d ago
I just play single player whilst simultaneously in discord! Less alone + more fun
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u/tensecat 6d ago
This for sure, especially for survival games like 7 days to die or no man's sky. I need someone else there to keep me living
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u/Head_Cockswain 6d ago
The only downside of singleplayer is that it can feel lonely
Hard disagree.
Once one learns the shallow depth of NPC scripting and game imbalances(easy ways to win), interactions and even previously intense fights can get boring.
When new they can be exciting, sure, but once you learn how to take best advantage, it's often just eye candy and not very engaging.
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u/cepelin456 7d ago
while i agree, this is literally the most popular gaming opinion you could have
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u/B055MAN69420 7d ago
Welcome to r/unpopular opinions
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u/Myballshaveavoice 6d ago edited 6d ago
The true unpopular opinions are banned by mods or forcibly hidden in megathreads nobody uses.
The mods wanted it cucked and it has been cucked.
They made this sub in their own image
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u/WhatWeAllComeToNeed 6d ago
I’m not defending this practice of “censoring” actual unpopular opinions but all of the “uncensored” unpopular opinion subs are right-wing propaganda
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u/TavisNamara 6d ago
"echo chambers and nazi bars", so to speak.
Unlimited freedom to say literally anything invites the nazis. And I don't mean that metaphorically- I mean that literally. Look at every single major communication service that allows big, open communication without limits.
It happens on Facebook (they claim to try to stop it, but they fucking lie), it happens on Discord, it was the goddamn mission statement of Parler. Some of the services start cracking down and shift the demographic, like Discord has tried to do, but others, like Parler, revel in the literal nazis threatening people.
But then you get the opposite problem. You start restricting what's being said in order to get the nazis out, you inevitably cross a thin and delicate line... And suddenly it's an echo chamber. Dissenting opinions are squashed for fear of nazis. You can't let these fuckers have an inch or they'll forcibly overrun your entire service. So it winds up being one or the other.
Nazi bar or echo chamber.
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u/ArtScienceJosh 6d ago
That’s true and I’m pretty sure that’s the plan. They go extreme to get the response and when they do, they play victim and undermine the concept of freedom.
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u/AbsolutelyRidic 6d ago
Shit, it's because most people just upvote posts they agree with here and downvote the ones they don't. That's why I downvote every post I agree with.
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u/DrNopeMD 6d ago
The true unpopular opinions are just people with extremely weird tastes, like wearing socks in the shower or putting mayo in their coffee.
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u/allNamesAlreadyUsed 6d ago
I almost know noone who likes single player, offline. All my friends love multiplayer
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u/lasiusflex 6d ago
Yeah this is a very reddit opinion. Almost everyone I (myself included) buys/plays games for the multiplayer. I have played maybe 3 single player games in the last decade.
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u/Icannotblvit 6d ago
I don't really agree at all. Almost everyone I know of puts WAY more hours into multiplayer games than single players games.
Like you play single player games and put what? 40-50 hours into a good single player game? Maybe 100-200 if it's a REALLY good one you want to play over and over? Or maybe more if it's skyrim.
But you look at multiplayer games? 1-2k hours into any multiplayer game that gets played a lot EASY. I know tons of people with 5k hours into some games(like CSGO).
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u/BookSandwich 6d ago
I don’t think it’s the most popular gaming opinion. It must be close since companies for years were saying single player is dead and are only recently suggesting they’re not.
MP hit massive numbers to suggest that to those companies. Maybe it’s coming back down to Earth, but it was certainly trending that way for a while.
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u/The-Mirrorball-Man 7d ago
For casual gamers like me, multiplayer is simply not an option. I simply don't have the time to get good enough to enjoy multiplayer games.
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u/fromsdwithlove 6d ago
Totally agree. There are games with algorithms that try to match based on its perceived skill but they shoot below .400 and I get wrecked early and often in any type of multiplayer game.
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u/gaybabygirl1 6d ago
Try playing a game that is "always on" as well. I don't have the time or energy to make sure my "base" is safe for hours a day. I build a thing and it gets raided to the point it is basically gone and I'm just like welp back to single player cause I don't have time for this shit.
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u/smackiechanel 7d ago
It really just depends on what you're after in a game. If you're trying to relax, which many would argue the purpose of games is, then single player is for sure the way to go. If you need a competitive outlet to stay entertained, you can get good value from multiplayer also.
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u/Autistic_boi_666 6d ago
Couldn't put it better myself. As someone who takes pleasure in outplaying an opponent and mastering weapons/abilities, the whole experience feels sort of cheap when you know the game would let you win if it thinks you would enjoy it more, That's not to say that singleplayer games aren't fun from time to time, I definitely enjoy the satisfaction of completing a campaign, and Doom 2016/Eternal have been some of my favourite games when I want to de-stress. However personally I find it doesn't quite match the competitive challenge provided by multiplayer games
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u/Ididnotvoted 6d ago
I think thats why games let people choose their difficulty lvl too. I usually start campaigns at hard lvl or the hardest one if i feel i need a better challenge. 100% agree that some games campaign modes feel kinda cheap/too easy/not much of a challenge. Some games do actually take seriously the difficulty levels and it varies but some do not let you choose at all and i wish some did because i dont like to have to beat the whole game to actually start playing on harder difficulties especially when there are 2 of them locked.
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u/playertd 7d ago edited 6d ago
Bridge the gap, co-op is best.
You get those dope ass single player worlds and get to explore them with friends. Borderlands, dark souls, far cry, divinity, ect ect. Single player games are fine but would almost always be better with a co-op option.
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u/DarkElfMagic 7d ago
eh, I always find that it takes away from the experience when I have a friend along, it’s harder to get immersed
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u/playertd 7d ago
Depending on the friend you'll get more imerssed, we play video games like it's DnD haha.
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u/Aetra 6d ago
Depends on the game. Halo, Borderlands, Division 2, etc are awesome fun to play with my husband, but I find really heavy story games like Ghosts of Tsushima and Cyberpunk 2077 are better solo.
I'd love some co-op in Elder Scrolls though, even if in Skyrim it was just one person as the Dragonborn and the other as the companion type thing.
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u/Eeslor55-1C 6d ago
Elder Scrolls Online is that (I prefer it to Skyrim as it had more rpg elements), but does have that mmo feel.
I believe there is a mod for coop skyrim. I haven’t tried it myself. That might satisfy that coop itch more than eso for you.
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u/serifmasterrace 7d ago
I feel like I have the most fun playing single player but make the best memories playing co-op with my friends
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u/aVeryBadGuy1 7d ago
Is that an unpopular opinion? I feel like the fact that gaming is going through a massive multiplayer craze is frowned upon by a lot of gamers
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u/Giwaffee 6d ago
I don't even know why this is a thing. Why does one need to be better than the other?
Single player can be great. Multi player can be great too. It depends entirely on your preference and (the execution of) the game itself.
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u/StuckInBronze 6d ago
It's just fun to compete against another person rather than ai.
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u/jdl_uk 7d ago
Yup, I play single player exclusively. The only concession to multiplayer is couch-coop with the wife (which we do quite a lot)
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u/Toothlessdovahkin 6d ago
I saw what you did there. Nice double entendre.
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u/jdl_uk 6d ago
Hah didn't even realise about the second meaning. Freud would be proud ;)
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u/Beginning-Ok 7d ago
I agree. I also like campaigns better than multiplayer in cod games
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u/armen89 7d ago
The older ones had great story lines
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u/Artrixx_ 6d ago
The older cod's, not all of them but the mw's were meant to be a realistic scenario of what could be In a realistic world based on our world history of modern warfare. The rest are good in their own aspects but the old modern warfare are great in their brutally realistic gameplay and story telling.
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u/Freakin_A 6d ago
The first MW airport level comes to mind :o
I still can't believe they put that into a game
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u/Butterfriedbacon 7d ago
Is this unpopularopinion? This brave new world frightens me...
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u/A_Unique_Nobody 6d ago
Dude didn't anybody tell you?
In r/unpopularopinion the opinions are either popular, or so crazy you wonder if it's a troll
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u/No-Difficulty2393 6d ago
I like single players because I'm bad.
I game a lot but the fingers don't keep up. It doesn't stop me from enjoying at all. I'm simply a " trapped in a chair" kind of player. I play a slow badly coordinated game and I love it.
So when I get a new game, like the day it's out and I go online and then demolished in 5 sec over and over by players. And I mean fast. Like decades ago when l4d 2 got out I was like all right I'm online let's find a - dead. Let's try again so dodging is x and - dead And so on.
So I prefer single players simply because gamers are wayyyy to good for me.
My favourite games are anything in the horror survival category like resident evil, evil within, etc
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u/ExpandingFlames01 6d ago
Yeah same. I play a lot of RTS games and since the genre peaked in the 2000's, online players are extremely good and seem to devote their entire life to playing just that one game. Plus, I don't usually like meta strategies so get punished since I use worse but more interesting troops. That's why I only used to play custom games on WC3- I did get really good at Trolls and Elves as a result lol.
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u/dragonborn-dovakhiin 7d ago
the only unpopular opinion here is that you thought this was an unpopular opinion
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u/Jekkle1221 7d ago edited 7d ago
This isn’t unpopular.
There’s an enormous speed running community that agrees with you.
I recommend you watch a GDQ event. They raise literal millions (because this opinion isn’t unpopular) for charity speed running classic single player games.
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u/lcole303 7d ago
As one of 4 brothers, online co-op is dope too.
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u/Aventador12123 7d ago
If only all games had split screen.
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u/lcole303 7d ago
We do lan party with 4 tvs around the holidays, but we are all on the same team
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u/Aventador12123 7d ago
Sounds cool. Imagine playing with your friends in co-op whilst it's snowing outside and you have a hot chocolate next to you as you play. My idea of gaming heaven.
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u/lcole303 7d ago
Definitely spent some holidays as such, but as we're all 29 to 39 now we add a little booze to the chocolate
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u/lcole303 7d ago
The old golden eye days lol
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u/alexccj 6d ago
Yeees! This is the multiplayer I grew up with. Four guys hunkered down in the cellar tv-room, table full of soda and candy, all four connected to the N64 with cabled controllers playing facility with granade launchers and proximity mines. No internet, no fancy shit, a 32" tv split in four. That is/was the best type of multiplayer. Also playing cooperative multiplayer in Perfect Dark with laptop guns against 8 DarkSim simulants. That was a challenge. Brings back memories.
Now we're all married and have children. None of us have time for online multiplayer games, so I roll with the singleplayers like Witcher 3, Assassin's Creed, The Outer Worlds, Far Cry and Metro. But I do miss my old N64.
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u/Wonderful-Original-8 7d ago
Online multiplayer are too addicting to me. I use to be able to tell myself that I could play in moderation but it was just an excuse to destroy my life. Gaming is too important to me to quit so I just pick up the more casual single player options
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u/DSPbuckle 6d ago
Translation: good Single player games when focused on single player experiences are good just like good multiplayer games based on multiplayer experiences are good.
More of factual take than an opinion and considering the sales of the games you mentioned, plenty of buyers agree so not unpopular
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u/TheAsianOne_wc 7d ago
Don't forget Skyrim, with the mods, you can have endless amount of fun
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u/iressivor 6d ago
I'm currently on my second run through Skyrim with mods. I always marvel at the streamers on Twitch who have like 1,300 mods on their games, which is way more than my little machine could ever handle.
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u/H1Eagle 7d ago
Very unpopular opinion, Its like every gaming forum, website or outlet has NEVER EVER said this
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u/KittyPitty 7d ago
I totally agree. I don't like playing with other people, as I like to go on my own pace. Also, I really do not like talking during gameplay...
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u/RustylllShackleford 6d ago
this post, along with paying for upgrades in a $70 game is why I also prefer single player
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u/IND_PILOT_380 7d ago
allows even people in Somalia to play without interruption.
If you are in Somalia you priorities are unlikely to be playing single player games and are probably survival.
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u/Butterfriedbacon 7d ago
I think you underestimate the connectivity of Somalia, especially it's class that capable of owning game consoles.
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u/ThisIsAnAccount2306 7d ago
I avoid online multiplayer because I am an adult and I don't have the time to "git gud" at some FPS or whatever by playing it every hour I am awake. Plus, people cheat, which ruins the game.
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u/YepOkButWhy 7d ago
Witcher 3 I could play and just get lost in. But I have to appreciate multiplayer games, especially now since there are so few releases. Co-op games like Valheim are also pretty sick, playing with a few friends Co-op is also amazing. I feel like they are incomparable though.
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u/EZMickey 7d ago
The different game modes solve different creative problems and therefore appeal to different audiences for different reasons. Single player games are good on their own merits but not better than multiplayer games by the merits of what makes a multiplayer game good.
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u/act167641 7d ago
You can add Ghost of Tsushima, Horizon, Subnautica and the Resident Evil remakes to this list.
Single player is definitely my preference.
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u/GummyKyun 6d ago
I’d rather play 100 single player rpgs than play a forced co-op game like overwatch again.
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u/YoursTrulyNico milk meister 6d ago
Agreed man. I play a lot of PvP games but I got tired of it and needed something more peaceful.
I play farming simulator now. It's oddly relaxing
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u/_masha 6d ago
I agree with you. I'm new to gaming and I find the communities very toxic and not friendly at all to newbies. It sucks more when they find out you're female.
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u/againstdoggospeech3 6d ago
You only named games which are not multiplayer, but singleplayer focused games which happen to have a multiplayer option (Except for Warzone, but that's just generic boring CoD stuff).
If you want good multiplayer, go for games which have been designed to be mainly multiplayer.
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u/Frostyuwusnowman 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yo is this actually a fairly unpopular opinion or r/unpopularopinions ? Blasphemy. I agree with you btw.
Most posts here are like “I think women deserve rights”. Then they go on to receive 60k upvotes
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u/Cosmic772 7d ago
looking at the comments ima say this is actually just another popular opinion.
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u/isticist 7d ago
100%. Sometimes I play Tarkov with some friends, and yeah, it's fun and intense (sometimes)... but all I'm thinking about is how much I'd rather be playing Stalker.
I also don't like how multiplayer games only last about a year or two before either getting abandoned by the devs and/or by the players. I think games like Minecraft are the ideal of combined singleplayer and multiplayer.
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u/Stealth_bummer_ 7d ago
I can’t stand online games. Won’t buy em. I can’t see very well even with my specs and the skill level is so high/ cheating means that I can’t go more than 30 secs without getting killed. It makes it not fun. That and the casual racism/sexism etc over the mic. And children screaming all the time
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u/PinkC00l 7d ago
I really miss local co-op games. Now they're a thing of the past it seems. I'm really grateful stardew added it, I just wish more games would follow its lead.
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u/mrswoodie96 6d ago
I agree! Witcher 3 and Oblivion are my favs.
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u/Eeslor55-1C 6d ago
Oblivion, so damn good and way better than skyrim for 2 reasons: Shivering Isles and the awesome dark brotherhood quests.
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u/Nickthedick3 7d ago
I’m ashamed as a gamer that you didn’t mention Skyrim in the single player lineup. That’s the most iconic one lol
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u/filtron42 6d ago
If you like playing co-op I highly suggest you to try the Monster Hunter series, they're very fun games (the older titles are a bit less user-friendly though) and playing with randoms isn't so bad, in World is a bit different, but generally speaking everyone who plays online has already completed the single player portion of the game and already knows how to move around
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u/WhiteNoiseReddit 6d ago
I’m not sure that this is truly unpopular, but regardless I agree with you OP
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u/BokiGilga 6d ago
I mostly agree. I am still trying to get that feeling in online multiplayer I got when I first started playing WoW. Nothing even comes close.
Everything these days is aimed towards mometisation, retention and all other marketing bullshit.
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u/-Puss_In_Boots- 6d ago
I haven't played one online game that wasn't toxic. Games are supposed to be fun, what's the point in playing something that ruins your day?
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u/Strawhat_Carrot 6d ago
100% agree but, I also wish more games had co-op than competitive multiplayer. Like, I'd love to play some Fallout, Breath of the Wild, or Mass Effect style games with a full campaign coop.
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u/mad_alex_2306 quiet person 6d ago
I think games should stick to their roots and quit adding online multiplayer to story based games. Call of Duty is best known for its multiplayer but it wouldn't be the same without the campaign, but GTA and RDR2 really don't need an online. At the very least, it doesn't need to be as complex and cash grabbing as it is cos it makes it impossible for anyone to start playing if they didn't play from the moment it was released
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u/Gaolbreaker 6d ago
I really want to enjoy the Witcher 3, I can tell it's a good game. I used to enjoy the hell out of single player experiences, Ocarina of Time, GTA3, Skyrim, Final Fantasy 6 through 10, I've sunk a lot of time into those titles. But these days I don't know why, but when I try to play a single player experience like the Witcher or Fallout, I just feel.... lonely? The world feels sorta empty. NPCs wait for you to click on the dialogue with decent animation, but still an empty shell.
This is why I keep going back to Borderlands 2 or Call of Duty Zombies mode with my friends. If Skyrim or the Witcher had at least a 2 player option.... ho boy.
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u/ScottyBeans 6d ago
Good games are going to be good games whether they are single player or multiplayer
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u/hEEbtheJEWish 6d ago
I think the thing that ruins a lot of multi-player is cheating. If they could figure out how to stop that it would be a million times better. And the general toxic behavior.
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u/angryhobowizza 6d ago
The attitude in this thread seems to be that multiplayer video games (csgo, rainbow six) are incredibly toxic (i mean they are) but that just depends on how you play the game. You can still enjoy a multiplayer shooter like csgo or rainbow six siege casually, especially if you have friends to play with and don’t care about rank, or play the more casual modes. In my experience the my teammates, at the worst, are simply very cringy and annoying rather than toxic.
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u/darkblaze76 6d ago
Weird.
What do you mean by 'better'? Depending on what you want from your games, singleplayer and multiplayer games can provide their own unque experiences. One can like one or the other or both. One doesn't have to be 'better' than the other because we don't even know what exactly makes it better.
Some games are elevated by inclusion of multiplayer elements like Dark Souls and others have it as an obligatory and lackluster side feature like the RE3 Remake. Some games are fully focused on singleplayer narrative experiences like God of War and others are fully focused on a competitive multiplayer experience like fighting or fps games.
It should be noted that coop also makes the best of both worlds. You will probably have miserable multiplayer experiences if you only play with randoms. But some of the most fun I've had in games is playing with my friends, my brother or my girlfriend online or on the couch, multiplayer.
Saying that one is simply better than the other is just a weird concept to me.
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u/Ficzd 6d ago edited 6d ago
The thing with multiplayer is that you need to understand that each experience is going to be different and offer different types of gameplay. You also have to understand that you cannot compare the singleplayer experience to the multiplayer experience. A singleplayer experience is going to be about telling a story and letting you really take in a game for what it is. A multiplayer mode is going to do exactly what it says. Let you play with multiple players. A multiplayer experience isn’t prioritizing having an open world for you to explore, it’s not prioritizing replay ability (though it does exist just in a form that requires you to identify it to appreciate it, and it certainly doesn’t prioritize telling a story. It’s about letting you connect and play with other people, and to give significance to your actions in game as they relate to other players.
This is comparing apples to oranges. Both types of modes provide vastly different experiences, and while you can definitively say which one provides more fun for you personally, it’s impossible to say one is better than the other, even if the entire world was split and agreed on either side, because they’re not comparable.
Personally I find singleplayer story-orientated games to be boring for the most part. The worlds feel empty and unless a game really captivated me and has convincingly real/fantastically designed characters my actions feel like they have no meaning. I don’t care if I shoot that person in RDR2, or If I explode the atom bomb in megaton in fallout 3, because the game doesn’t give me a solid enough experience to warrant me thinking twice about it. In my eyes that doesn’t form a preference but more just that the singleplayer games fail to provide the experience they’re trying to give me. That could just be me, but I feel like a game like battlefield or COD suits me better. Even if I don’t actively think about significance of my actions I prefer the chaotic fun and the competitive edge of the games. And, no offense, but I don’t feel like Warzone is one of your main games. Understanding why snipers are so important or the meta/which are the best guns to use, how bullet velocity in the game works, why you need to be vigilant 24/7 in a battle royale game to be good at it - all of those things are important for a player to know, so that they can understand how or why they got sniped from across the map or just how to play it in general. You need to understand that the main focus of a game like Warzone is to..... well, win. You can’t expect someone to not snipe at you, everyone’s going to be tryharding because that’s how the game is played, trying your best to outcompete the other player.
What I’m trying to say is that you need a good understanding of multiplayer/singleplayer to properly enjoy either one. A person who prefers singleplayer games might not think as deeply into certain aspects as much as someone who prefers multiplayer games and vice versa. I will openly admit that I don’t take the time to explore every nook and cranny of a singleplayer game, even if that’s what makes it good, since I just want to “get it over with” in a sense (other than the metro series I love those games). You have to separate the two types of experiences and understand what makes both of them from the ground up.
Additionally...... you can’t seriously expect that multiplayer isn’t going to be toxic. It’s always been that way, and it’s a shame that it will probably never change. It’s both a display of human nature and also just an integral part of the experience, someone feels justified to shit talk you after they killed you etc.
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u/fries_supreme2 6d ago
Theres thousands of each, theres no objective truth. With your logic I could compare wii barbie jet set style or club penguin game day or flingsmash or bejewled 3 to mario kart and last of us factions and say multiplayer is better. Theres bad games of each, with time bad updates can come to make a game that was once good bad. New games will always come and be better then the games that were bad.
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u/erpkins3 6d ago
I agree, but I find it depends on the community behind the game. I definitely prefer single player games over online multiplayer, but I'd be lying if I said I haven't put some significant hours into Team Fortress 2, Apex Legends, and Deep Rock Galactic. Maybe it's just my personal experience, but those games don't tend to bring my blood to a boil with annoying players. Team Fortress 2 is such a goofy ass game that if you're being a tryhard it's actually hilarious, I play Apex with my friends so I rarely ever hear toxic randos and when I do matches are so quick I don't care, and Deep Rock Galactic has one of the most inviting and sincere communities I've ever seen. You still get the occasional ass hat but I find the vast majority of DRG players are super nice players who are always willing to help out new players.
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u/billyb2839 6d ago
If you're on PS4, go into your network settings, and set MTU to 700. You can go into a public session with no players in.
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u/BundleOfShae 6d ago
I play multiplayer when I want community, I play single player when I want alone time.
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u/jster1752 hermit human 6d ago
i cant believe you didnt include gwent with sword minigame witcher 3 on your list of examples on how single player games are superior
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u/NewAgeLemon 7d ago
Ye, I agree. This is why I mostly play co-op games or single player grand strategies/tycoons/rpgs. I had played hundreds of hours in overwatch.. but its just too toxic. At least if I fuck up in a single player game its my fault and i can play at whatever pace i want.